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How old is Iroh/Ozai?

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    LordMordor

    [1]Nov 5, 2006
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    Thought about this after seeing Zuko alone again.?? Iroh seems to be a good deal older than Ozai after comparing a few of the flashbacks

    1. when Iroh is writing to Zuko and Azula from the seige of Ba Sing Se he looks pretty much just like he does now except with black hair, his face is still pretty mature looking.?? We also know Lu Ten is fully grown at this point considering his picture and that he died shortly afterwards

    2. Ozai's face by comparison is a good deal more youthful, and Zuko is still in mid-childhood.

    my guess is that at the time period of the flashbacks (when Ozai took the throne) Iroh is about in his mid-40's to early-50's...Ozai on the otherhand seems to be in his early to mid 30's.?? With that kind of age gap between them I doubt they would of ever been that close.

    add about 5-6 years to arrive at the time frame of Zuko's banishment and add another 2 years for time in exile and Iroh would be in his early or mid 60s while Ozai would only now be his early to mid 40s.?? Just my guess of course.

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    agnai

    [2]Nov 5, 2006
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    I'm going with Iroh is older than Ozai.
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    37381

    [3]Nov 5, 2006
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    agnai wrote:
    I'm going with Iroh is older than Ozai.

    Iroh is older than Ozai.

    "You dare ask me to betray Iroh, my first born?!" - Fire Lord Azulon.

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    Songoftheskies

    [5]Nov 5, 2006
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    Hey don't insult him.
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    gilvatar

    [6]Nov 5, 2006
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    Bobton123456 wrote:
    How can you go with something that is ture? Seriously, its no question. Iroh freakin' older, damn your retarded.
    *sticks a bar of soap in bobton's mouch* mellow out. peace
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    Falcondude123

    [7]Nov 5, 2006
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    Well maybe Azulon is getting senile when he says that, you know, mixing things up like old folks sometimes do.
    (not saying I think that is the case, just giving some 'quit-while-your-behind' credit to agnai.)
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    37381

    [8]Nov 5, 2006
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    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Well maybe Azulon is getting senile when he says that, you know, mixing things up like old folks sometimes do. (not saying I think that is the case, just giving some 'quit-while-your-behind' credit to agnai.)

    Ozai also mentioned "birth-right".

    "Revoke Iroh's birth-right" -Ozai.

    This means that legally, Iroh was suppose to be next in like for the throne after Azulon, but somehow, Ozai succeeded instead.

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    Avatar_hick101

    [9]Nov 5, 2006
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    Oazi said that Iroh would be to emotional over his sons death to make good decisions for the fire nation so Azulon gave the throne to Oazi.
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    F1ames

    [10]Nov 5, 2006
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    iroh is older than ozai, end of story. the first son always inherits the property from the father, and in iroh's case, the fire nation throne. its called primogeniture
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    onceinabluemoon

    [11]Nov 5, 2006
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    Yeah, we all know Iroh is older. But the topic of this thread is HOW OLD IS IROH/OZAI? Key words: "How" and "old". Don't hate me. I'm just tring to keep this thread on track. And I agree with LordMordor.
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    LordMordor

    [12]Nov 5, 2006
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    wow, that got off track...anyone watching the show should really know by now that Iroh is the oldest.

    what I wanted was your opinions on exactly HOW old they were and what kind of age gap there was between the two
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    PrimoNation

    [13]Nov 5, 2006
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    LordMordor wrote:
    wow, that got off track...anyone watching the show should really know by now that Iroh is the oldest. what I wanted was your opinions on exactly HOW old they were and what kind of age gap there was between the two

    Okay... here's the math (and a little guessing actually)

    Zuko was approximately 10 I would say when his father took the throne.?? Seems people in this world marry at approximately 16 (remember the necklace and Princess Yue from the Northern Water Tribe).?? So that would have made Ozai around 26 when his father died.?? Now Lu Ten looked to be around 20 in his picture in Tales of Ba Sing Se.?? That would have made Ozai around 36 if he had Lu Ten immediately at 16, but I doubt it so lets add around 4 years for this purpose since in the flashback of Iroh at??his Ba Sing Se battle, I would put him at around 40.

    Soooo.... If Ozai is 26 and Iroh is 40 when there father dies and Zuko was around 10 at the time and he is now 16....?? Their current ages would be.... (drum roll please)....?? OZAI 32 and IROH 46??

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    LordMordor

    [14]Nov 5, 2006
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    seems pretty good, though basing the normal age fire nation royaly marry and start familys off the tribal and far less advanced Water tribes might throw some things off.

    I'll have another go...
    Lu Ten does seem to be around 20-ish in his picture, and Iroh seemed to be in his 40's durring the seige...this would put Iroh in his 20's for when he had Lu Ten, seems reasonable considering the brief flashback to Lu Ten's childhood

    Zuko appeared no more than 10 durring the flashback. Since Iroh likely had Lu Ten around his 20's we will use that to guess the age Ozai started his family. That would mean Ozai is in his 30's at the time of the seige.

    fast forward approx. 4 years for the time of Zuko's banishment, two more years for exile
    Iroh = 46 to 51 (5 year margin of error)
    Ozai = 36 to 41 (5 year margin of error)
    a possible 10 year age gap between Iroh and Ozai

    considering how old Iroh seems I'm tempted to go with the high number for him
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    PrimoNation

    [15]Nov 5, 2006
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    I can go with the later date for Iroh... but Ozai comes off as somebody I would not be surprised to see copulate at a younger age. I think there is more than 10 years between them, I think its closer to 15. (I had it figured around 14 yrs in my numbers).
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    LordMordor

    [16]Nov 5, 2006
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    i can see what your saying...in any case our numbers are close enough that either could be correct.

    anyway, with such a large age gap in between Iroh and Ozai I could see how differently they must have been rasied.?? Ozai probably never even saw Iroh that much.

    Edited on 11/05/2006 7:41pm
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    FireNationMai

    [17]Nov 14, 2006
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    PrimoNation wrote:

    LordMordor wrote:
    wow, that got off track...anyone watching the show should really know by now that Iroh is the oldest. what I wanted was your opinions on exactly HOW old they were and what kind of age gap there was between the two

    Okay... here's the math (and a little guessing actually)

    Zuko was approximately 10 I would say when his father took the throne.?? Seems people in this world marry at approximately 16 (remember the necklace and Princess Yue from the Northern Water Tribe).?? So that would have made Ozai around 26 when his father died.?? Now Lu Ten looked to be around 20 in his picture in Tales of Ba Sing Se.?? That would have made Ozai around 36 if he had Lu Ten immediately at 16, but I doubt it so lets add around 4 years for this purpose since in the flashback of Iroh at??his Ba Sing Se battle, I would put him at around 40.

    Soooo.... If Ozai is 26 and Iroh is 40 when there father dies and Zuko was around 10 at the time and he is now 16....?? Their current ages would be.... (drum roll please)....?? OZAI 32 and IROH 46??



    I read Iroh is in his Mid-60's. Ozai is, I dunno, something!
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