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    Maylene

    [21]Nov 24, 2006
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    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.


    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.


    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^
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    free2eatcookies

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    Rin-tori wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:
    I agree, but I hope that doesn't happen. I love Kataang!
    Ditto. Love Kataang, but that does make sense. T_T I hope Aang breaks the mold!

    i do to.i think evry1 deserves to be with sum1,even the avatar

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    blitzwing17

    [23]Nov 24, 2006
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    I worte this in another thread but here it is again:

    [QUOTE="blitzwing17]AirNomad, I don't think that the other Avatars will steal her away or anything. Remember that Aang is their reincarnation, and that even if they are not Aang per say, they are all in one way the same person. By causing him pain they are also hurtin themselves. It's the same reason you would have trouble cutting your own hand off. Besides it seems a little childish to simply remove her from him. It reminds me of a parent scolding thier child for not doing his homework by taking away his TV previliges. This is no way to teach anyone a lesson, that would simply anger him and make him want to be with her out of sheer spite. Aang needs to come to the conclusion that it is simply better for the world as a whole if they were not together. The Avatar's life is filled with danger and peril, and it would be a lot easier for both of them if everytime something happened they didnth have such strong emotions towards one another. In the end, it will only result in pain. [/QUOTE]

    Aang may be able to change his destiny but their will be a price, their is always a price. Katara's destiny was to marry a powerful bender, what if by Aang changing his destiny he also changed hers. She would end up with him, only she would die shorlty after and never get married.

    If Back to the Future has taught us anything it's that tempering with destiny simply isn't worth it, unless it's to get one of those sweet hoverboards.
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    kataang4eva081

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    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

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    iareally

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    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.


    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.


    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^


    :]] I really dont know what to say to that! :]] But thanx... that made me smile!
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    Maylene

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    blitzwing17 wrote:
    If Back to the Future has taught us anything it's that tempering with destiny simply isn't worth it, unless it's to get one of those sweet hoverboards.


    LoL ^^ You may have a point, if Aang tries to change his--there will be dire consequences.
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    iareally

    [27]Nov 24, 2006
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    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.



    First theres nothing that says Katara knew what he was going to say, starting with she didn't say "i know what your going to say" because if she knew he was going to say "i love you" and she really loved him back she wouldn't have kissed him on the cheek thats for sure. And as far as Aunt Wu and her predictions, well I've given my point and i'm sticking by it, but I do see where your coming from in yours. :]]
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    iareally

    [28]Nov 24, 2006
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    This is the??FUNNIEST thing

    like EVER you must watch it!

    CLICK HERE

    *okay so maybe no EVER but still :]] i laughed!

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    iareally

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    oh and i know the technically my last message doesn't need to go in here, but i've been talking to you guys all day so why not! :]]
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    GhostDragon02

    [30]Nov 24, 2006
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    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    I totally agree with you.

    I don't see why the Avatar shouldn't be allowed to have a lover. I mean, even if Aang wasn't aloud a romantic relationship, and he DID know about it, it wouldn't matter! He'd still fall in love eventually! You can't help who you fall in love with, and that makes it all the more painful.

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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [31]Nov 24, 2006
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    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

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    iareally

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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

    Thank you for that! :]] I really didn't want to keep arguing earlier, but THANK YOU! OMG! lol

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    whats-it

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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

    This brings me back to the Guru. Aang can shape his destiny by either mastering the Avatar State or not. That could DEFINITELY change his destiny!

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    iareally

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    whats-it wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

    This brings me back to the Guru. Aang can shape his destiny by either mastering the Avatar State or not. That could DEFINITELY change his destiny!



    Or his destiny has already been set and whatever he picks is what was meant to happen. If you think about it the only way you can change your destiny is if you know what happens before you get to the point where you have to choose.
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    ISpeakTheTruth

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    whats-it wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

    This brings me back to the Guru. Aang can shape his destiny by either mastering the Avatar State or not. That could DEFINITELY change his destiny!

    You just don't get it do you? Fate can't be cheated. Look at the Aunt Wu episode no matter what anyone did to change her predictions or prove them false in the end the ended up coming true. What ever Aang chooses to do was already seen by Aunt Wu because his choice affected him not having love in the future. Whatever happens was meant to happen in order to lead the the vision Wu saw.

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    iareally

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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    whats-it wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    kataang4eva081 wrote:

    Maylene wrote:
    iareally wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    AirNomad wrote:
    exactly
    iareally wrote:
    OMG OMG EXACTLY! :]]
    BUT Aunt Wu did say Aang had the power to CHANGE HIS DESTINY.
    But does he really? I mean she said that he change the clouds... but wasn't Aunt Wu's prediction that the village wouldn't be destoryed? She didn't say that the volcano wouldn't errupt. I believe she would just telling them that to give him the freedom to live life without question, but in the end her predictions have been true, and in her prediction of Aangs future, love wasn't in it.
    You're good, really good. Do you know that? ^_^

    Just because she didn't see love, doesn't mean its not there. Clearly, she was sort of already proven wrong by what Aang says. He says he loves Katara. So love was already in his past present and future. Love is love, and he loves Katara. And Katara knew what he was going to say in the Earth King and she kissed him on the cheek. So she in a way is howing she also has feelings for him. And she never said that love wasn't in his future, just that she "didn't see anthing". And of course the whole "being able to shape his own destiny" thing too.

    It could be argued easily that when she said love in the future she was talking about love that was returned...Katara doesn't feel the same way Aang does that's rather clear. The fact is Aunt Wu saw Katara married to someone and she saw Aang with no one...That's fairly cut and dry.

    And yes when she said he could shape his own destiny I do believe she said that so he wouldn't be sad.

    This brings me back to the Guru. Aang can shape his destiny by either mastering the Avatar State or not. That could DEFINITELY change his destiny!

    You just don't get it do you? Fate can't be cheated. Look at the Aunt Wu episode no matter what anyone did to change her predictions or prove them false in the end the ended up coming true. What ever Aang chooses to do was already seen by Aunt Wu because his choice affected him not having love in the future. Whatever happens was meant to happen in order to lead the the vision Wu saw.



    We are SO on the same page! because my reply basically says the same thing! :]]
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    whats-it

    [37]Nov 24, 2006
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    I DO get it, but Aang knows that if he doesn't master the AS he will NEVER be able to enter it again (at least, not until he's reborn). He may not know what will happen if he stays there and learns it, but he does know what will happen if he doesn't. He still has the free will to determine which road he decides to take. The same with Zuko. Their decisions will determine what they do for the rest of their lives. The question is, which one WILL they choose?

    I don't believe in that "fate is unchangable" crap, BTW. I just think that's an excuse someone uses to get out of doing something they don't want to do or believe they can't do.

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    The only way Aang could change destiny is if he killed Katara...If she's dead then that means no marriage and no children because you're reproductive organs don't work so well when you're dead...but since that's not an option Aang can't change it.
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    whats-it

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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    The only way Aang could change destiny is if he killed Katara...If she's dead then that means no marriage and no children because you're reproductive organs don't work so well when you're dead...but since that's not an option Aang can't change it.

    So, you just basically said killing Katara would destroy any chance of him getting married and having kids. All that does is destroy Katara's "fate" of marrying a powerful bender and having kids. Aang still has to defeat the Fire Lord and put the world back into its proper balance.

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    ISpeakTheTruth

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    whats-it wrote:

    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:
    The only way Aang could change destiny is if he killed Katara...If she's dead then that means no marriage and no children because you're reproductive organs don't work so well when you're dead...but since that's not an option Aang can't change it.

    So, you just basically said killing Katara would destroy any chance of him getting married and having kids. All that does is destroy Katara's "fate" of marrying a powerful bender and having kids. Aang still has to defeat the Fire Lord and put the world back into its proper balance.

    I was talking about changing anything that is fated to happen

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