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    edmasterchaos

    [41]Aug 11, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    sharpguard wrote:
    Book 2.Way more plot.
    Agreed.

    Honestly, if they had added an arc in season 3, like the "find earth-bending teacher" or "find appa" arcs in season 2 rather than having multiple fillers season 3 would've been the best.

    Season 3 is epic and all, but DoBS, WAT and SC can't make an entire season.

    Don't forget FBM, BR, SR, EIP, Sokka's Master, The Beach...

    Personally, I think that Zuko's redemption was the major arc that covered the first hal of the season, and it was a pretty good one.

    But you do have a point about the outright storytelling of B2 being on a higher scale that it's peers. But B3 definitely wins points for it's truly epic individual movies. That's why they are a tie for me.
    Well, FBM, BR, EIP and The Beach were kinda fillers, i mean, we never saw any sort of use for the Dancing Dragon, or the rainbow fire, hell, even the golden egg, on any other episodes, and Zuko conviniently stopped being able to firebend that episode, leading it to a One Chapter Adventure That Doesn't Actually Help The Over All Plot.

    Then BR, sure it was good, but, we just saw how useless Sokka sword can and will be, and brought Hakoda, Tall Guy and Suki, and on episode later Hakoda and Tall Guy left... altough the Mai/Ty Lee confrontation with Azula was extremely important, it could've been just one episode, and have the SR be two so it could be more enjoyable.

    EIP, it was funny, but it was just a comic episode actually, and i'm just taking this to a plot-wise arguement.

    SM, while it was quite important, in the end, Sokka got fictional development for a one-day problem, a sword that altough appeared in every episode after, didn't make make any importance and just slowed Sokka down a bit (again Zuko & Sokka Vs Azula in BR) but Iroh's part was very important, and, the OWL hint was, well, unnesesary actually.

    The Beach, as much as i loved the fanservice, it was really just a Miami Beach with 7 minutes worth of Character Development by Zuko & Mai and CM's first encounter with the Gaang. Ty Lee's and Azula's development was pretty much one-chapter and kinda just told us that Azula will fall down emotionally, as much as i love forshadowing they made that one too obvious...

    But, that's just my opinion, "Many people can see the same tree and yet, the tree in everyone's mind from seeing that tree will be different"
    The Beach was definitely not a filler. It was a huge turning point in Zuko's character development. HUGE. Also, it told us more about Azula and led to a small foreshadowing of her insanity.
    Yeah, i agreed, that's pretty much what i said
    Those 7 minutes were extremely important, Zuko realizing that he is not happy for what's going on and Mai opening up for Zuko where extremely important.
    Altough, Azula's forshadowing could've been less obvious...
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    isabelwhatx

    [42]Aug 11, 2008
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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    I am not "anti-filler" like some people are. For me, the little one-episode expositions are interesting. Sure, "The Headband" may not have had much plot in it, but it was interesting to see how the children of the FN go about their days. I find a nice dosage of plot-filled episodes mixed with some filler episodes to be the perfect prescription.

    I think The Headband actually had a lot of significance. It showed, first off, that Aang and the rest of the gAang could fit into the Fire Nation. It also showed the innocence of the Fire Nation and how they were pretty ignorant about the whole war. It really shed a new light on the Fire Nation.
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    isabelwhatx

    [43]Aug 11, 2008
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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    sharpguard wrote:
    Book 2.Way more plot.
    Agreed.

    Honestly, if they had added an arc in season 3, like the "find earth-bending teacher" or "find appa" arcs in season 2 rather than having multiple fillers season 3 would've been the best.

    Season 3 is epic and all, but DoBS, WAT and SC can't make an entire season.

    Don't forget FBM, BR, SR, EIP, Sokka's Master, The Beach...

    Personally, I think that Zuko's redemption was the major arc that covered the first hal of the season, and it was a pretty good one.

    But you do have a point about the outright storytelling of B2 being on a higher scale that it's peers. But B3 definitely wins points for it's truly epic individual movies. That's why they are a tie for me.
    Well, FBM, BR, EIP and The Beach were kinda fillers, i mean, we never saw any sort of use for the Dancing Dragon, or the rainbow fire, hell, even the golden egg, on any other episodes, and Zuko conviniently stopped being able to firebend that episode, leading it to a One Chapter Adventure That Doesn't Actually Help The Over All Plot.

    Then BR, sure it was good, but, we just saw how useless Sokka sword can and will be, and brought Hakoda, Tall Guy and Suki, and on episode later Hakoda and Tall Guy left... altough the Mai/Ty Lee confrontation with Azula was extremely important, it could've been just one episode, and have the SR be two so it could be more enjoyable.

    EIP, it was funny, but it was just a comic episode actually, and i'm just taking this to a plot-wise arguement.

    SM, while it was quite important, in the end, Sokka got fictional development for a one-day problem, a sword that altough appeared in every episode after, didn't make make any importance and just slowed Sokka down a bit (again Zuko & Sokka Vs Azula in BR) but Iroh's part was very important, and, the OWL hint was, well, unnesesary actually.

    The Beach, as much as i loved the fanservice, it was really just a Miami Beach with 7 minutes worth of Character Development by Zuko & Mai and CM's first encounter with the Gaang. Ty Lee's and Azula's development was pretty much one-chapter and kinda just told us that Azula will fall down emotionally, as much as i love forshadowing they made that one too obvious...

    But, that's just my opinion, "Many people can see the same tree and yet, the tree in everyone's mind from seeing that tree will be different"
    The Beach was definitely not a filler. It was a huge turning point in Zuko's character development. HUGE. Also, it told us more about Azula and led to a small foreshadowing of her insanity.
    Yeah, i agreed, that's pretty much what i said
    Those 7 minutes were extremely important, Zuko realizing that he is not happy for what's going on and Mai opening up for Zuko where extremely important.
    Altough, Azula's forshadowing could've been less obvious...

    But I don't think it was a filler, like you do. I think those 7 minutes, which is a third of the entire episode, are some of the most significant minutes in the whole series.
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    Jackson5050

    [44]Aug 11, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    I am not "anti-filler" like some people are. For me, the little one-episode expositions are interesting. Sure, "The Headband" may not have had much plot in it, but it was interesting to see how the children of the FN go about their days. I find a nice dosage of plot-filled episodes mixed with some filler episodes to be the perfect prescription.

    I think The Headband actually had a lot of significance. It showed, first off, that Aang and the rest of the gAang could fit into the Fire Nation. It also showed the innocence of the Fire Nation and how they were pretty ignorant about the whole war. It really shed a new light on the Fire Nation.
    Yeah, that is why I loved it. It may be filler, but it is a damn good episode. People need to quit using filler as a pejorative term.
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    isabelwhatx

    [45]Aug 11, 2008
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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    I am not "anti-filler" like some people are. For me, the little one-episode expositions are interesting. Sure, "The Headband" may not have had much plot in it, but it was interesting to see how the children of the FN go about their days. I find a nice dosage of plot-filled episodes mixed with some filler episodes to be the perfect prescription.

    I think The Headband actually had a lot of significance. It showed, first off, that Aang and the rest of the gAang could fit into the Fire Nation. It also showed the innocence of the Fire Nation and how they were pretty ignorant about the whole war. It really shed a new light on the Fire Nation.
    Yeah, that is why I loved it. It may be filler, but it is a damn good episode. People need to quit using filler as a pejorative term.

    I don't like the term "filler". I honestly don't believe it applies to any episode in this series, including the Great Divide. Everything in the episodes have significance.
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    edmasterchaos

    [46]Aug 11, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    edmasterchaos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    edmasterchaos wrote:
    sharpguard wrote:
    Book 2.Way more plot.
    Agreed.

    Honestly, if they had added an arc in season 3, like the "find earth-bending teacher" or "find appa" arcs in season 2 rather than having multiple fillers season 3 would've been the best.

    Season 3 is epic and all, but DoBS, WAT and SC can't make an entire season.

    Don't forget FBM, BR, SR, EIP, Sokka's Master, The Beach...

    Personally, I think that Zuko's redemption was the major arc that covered the first hal of the season, and it was a pretty good one.

    But you do have a point about the outright storytelling of B2 being on a higher scale that it's peers. But B3 definitely wins points for it's truly epic individual movies. That's why they are a tie for me.
    Well, FBM, BR, EIP and The Beach were kinda fillers, i mean, we never saw any sort of use for the Dancing Dragon, or the rainbow fire, hell, even the golden egg, on any other episodes, and Zuko conviniently stopped being able to firebend that episode, leading it to a One Chapter Adventure That Doesn't Actually Help The Over All Plot.

    Then BR, sure it was good, but, we just saw how useless Sokka sword can and will be, and brought Hakoda, Tall Guy and Suki, and on episode later Hakoda and Tall Guy left... altough the Mai/Ty Lee confrontation with Azula was extremely important, it could've been just one episode, and have the SR be two so it could be more enjoyable.

    EIP, it was funny, but it was just a comic episode actually, and i'm just taking this to a plot-wise arguement.

    SM, while it was quite important, in the end, Sokka got fictional development for a one-day problem, a sword that altough appeared in every episode after, didn't make make any importance and just slowed Sokka down a bit (again Zuko & Sokka Vs Azula in BR) but Iroh's part was very important, and, the OWL hint was, well, unnesesary actually.

    The Beach, as much as i loved the fanservice, it was really just a Miami Beach with 7 minutes worth of Character Development by Zuko & Mai and CM's first encounter with the Gaang. Ty Lee's and Azula's development was pretty much one-chapter and kinda just told us that Azula will fall down emotionally, as much as i love forshadowing they made that one too obvious...

    But, that's just my opinion, "Many people can see the same tree and yet, the tree in everyone's mind from seeing that tree will be different"
    The Beach was definitely not a filler. It was a huge turning point in Zuko's character development. HUGE. Also, it told us more about Azula and led to a small foreshadowing of her insanity.
    Yeah, i agreed, that's pretty much what i said
    Those 7 minutes were extremely important, Zuko realizing that he is not happy for what's going on and Mai opening up for Zuko where extremely important.
    Altough, Azula's forshadowing could've been less obvious...
    But I don't think it was a filler, like you do. I think those 7 minutes, which is a third of the entire episode, are some of the most significant minutes in the whole series.
    I know, those 7 minutes made up the whole episode as an important one, but still, as important as those 7 minutes were, there were 15 of useless Teen Problem filler, which could've been avoided if they had another arc or if CM had more and better screentime...
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    isabelwhatx

    [47]Aug 11, 2008
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    Not necessarily. The other time was spent developing the characters as well. The party scene showed how Azula actually doubts herself sometimes, and also how socially inept she is. The volleyball scene shows Azula with her thirst for power. Zuko, being so quick to anger in the episode, shows his inner dilemma with the decision he made.
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    Axrendale

    [48]Aug 11, 2008
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    I really don't see where you're coming from saying that the Azula forshadowing in The Beach was obvious. We learnt that Ursa's apparent rejection had a fairly major effect on Azula, but it was apparently brushed aside, and was pretty much forgotten about by all but the most obsessed Azula fans. Up until the NYCC trailer, I doubt that anyone could have predicted that Azula was going to lose her mind, or that her mother would have had such a big effect on her.
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    isabelwhatx

    [49]Aug 11, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    I really don't see where you're coming from saying that the Azula forshadowing in The Beach was obvious. We learnt that Ursa's apparent rejection had a fairly major effect on Azula, but it was apparently brushed aside, and was pretty much forgotten about by all but the most obsessed Azula fans. Up until the NYCC trailer, I doubt that anyone could have predicted that Azula was going to lose her mind, or that her mother would have had such a big effect on her.

    I would have NEVER guessed Azula would lose it if it weren't for the NYCC trailer. EVER. But, then, all the pieces kind of started falling into place and it made sense. Thank you, overly obsessed Avatards!
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