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Do benders bother with other fighting styles?

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    thewerewolfmage

    [1]May 3, 2008
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    I was watching Zuko Alone the other morning and it got me to thinking as to whether or not benders bother with other ways of fighting, such as swords or archery.

    Save for Zuko, and possibly Iroh as there have been one or two instances to come mind when he has not used bending but something else, do other benders bother to learn anything but their element?

    Yes the Earthbender in Zuko Alone uses a hammer with his Earthbending, and the swamp guy uses the plants, but those seem to help with their bending, not other form entirely.

    So do you think benders care about learning things other than their bending? And will this maybe come into play somehow?

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    khalid13

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    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow.

    Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.
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    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

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    khalid13

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    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.



    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then.

    Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.
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    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

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    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).
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    Spacerac wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).

    dont forget hakoda and bato

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).

    dont forget hakoda and bato

    I know. Hakoda, Bato, Teo and the Mechanist, any of the other Southern Watertribe members. But no one was born a bender originally. They learned it, yeah?

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).

    dont forget hakoda and bato

    and a million other people.
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    like Ju Dee(itt how its spelled)*gets a plate of Ju Dee cookies*
    Edited on 05/03/2008 9:23am
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    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).

    dont forget hakoda and bato

    and a million other people.


    But only select few had the talent to learn it, random people didn't just learn it

    hkulka2974 wrote:
    like Ju Dee(itt how its spelled)*gets a plate of Ju Dee cookies*


    That's QUEEN Joo Dee!!!! Get it right! :
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    NarutoAvatarDBZ wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    khalid13 wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    khalid13 wrote:
    Why bother? Remember Katara's icy darts? More powerful than any arrow. Zuko only used the broadsword when he did not want to be identified as a firebender.

    True, true. I guess I'm just wondering in cases like the eclipse and droughts and such, what would they do?

    In Zuko's case, did he learn both firebending and using his swords at the same time? He's only what 16? Maybe 17? Someone's had to have a birthday by now.

    Perhaps, but not necessarily. It's been since just before the Winter Solstice to just after the Summer Solstice. The Summer isn't over since the comet is die then. Eclipses aren't common, and water-benders live in the swamps or poles. War wasn't exactly expected, was it? Besides, each nation also has non-bender warriors, ref. Hakoda.

    No I guess war weren't expected until war were declared. But 100 years, I guess they all gave up?

    That's something I never got though. I know bending is from certain inborn traits or something to that effect. But it wasn't always like that, right? I mean, it had to be taught to the benders, from the sky bisons, badgermoles, moon, and dragons. So why can't everyone learn bending?

    Everyone can't learn bending because not everyone is a bender (just look at Sokka).

    dont forget hakoda and bato

    and a million other people.
    But only select few had the talent to learn it, random people didn't just learn it
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    like Ju Dee(itt how its spelled)*gets a plate of Ju Dee cookies*
    That's QUEEN Joo Dee!!!! Get it right! :

    the select people who can bend are born with the ability but need toi learn how to use it. *eats some Joo Dee cookies* anyone want any?

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    Bending's both genetic and spiritual. Get a good combination of the two and you can bend.
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    Benders do sometimes bother with weapons training, Aang and Zuko being prime examples. If you think about it, weapons really help when bending, I call them 'bending aids', you saw how powerful Zuko's fireblast in Zuko Alone was when he used his broadswords, you know how powerful Aang's bending is with his staff.

    Tl;dr version: weapons make benders stronger.
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    There's also that each bending is set to one fighting style, except for Toph who uses Chu Gar instead of Hung Gar like the other earthbenders. So no, they don't bother with other fighting styles.
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    Spacerac wrote:
    There's also that each bending is set to one fighting style, except for Toph who uses Chu Gar instead of Hung Gar like the other earthbenders. So no, they don't bother with other fighting styles.

    spacerac, itt the thread was refferring to why benders bother using something else to attack?

    like swords, hammers,spears instead of bending

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    Well, Zuko has swords. But he's from the Royal Family, and assume that benders already feel they only need bending to fight-cause it rocks.
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    even if you are a bender that doesn't mean that skill will always be useful

    Aang and Zuko have both been in situations were they'd be compromised if people around them knew they could bend whats good is waterbending if you are fighting in the desert, earthbending won't get you anywhere in an enviroment made of steal or wood (unless you're a pro)

    Firebendin can ponteinally damage the bender and his enviroment as much as it can their enemy

    your skills could also just get rendered useless because the bender or non bender is just better than you and you need a variety of kills in your aresenal
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    I'd say no. I mean in a fight, why would you bother doing something other than blasting fire, chunks of earth, streams of water, or gusts of air at your enemies unless you were trying to show them up?
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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Spacerac wrote:
    There's also that each bending is set to one fighting style, except for Toph who uses Chu Gar instead of Hung Gar like the other earthbenders. So no, they don't bother with other fighting styles.

    spacerac, itt the thread was refferring to why benders bother using something else to attack?

    like swords, hammers,spears instead of bending

    But the title actually refers to other styles. The first post refers to weapons. The title doesn't match the post.
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