Teranef wrote: | ||||
You know? Now that you mention the wisdom-intelligence difference, I was thinking . . . there have been lots of studies about intelligent animals but no studies about which animal is the wisest. Wisdom is vague and poorly defined . . . I mean, you know it when you see it . . . but when sat down and asked to define it, it's hard. I wonder what the wisest animal in the world is. I think it'd be a social animal, and my vote would go to the elephant. I looked up "wise" and "wisdom" in a few dictionaries and it seemed to basically be using knowledge and life experience to make good judgements and sensible decisions based on deep understanding and insight. As far as i'm concerned, "wisdom" is just "intelligence" applied to life situations rather then short-term, practical, problem solving tasks. Wisdom is harder to pin down then intelligence as far as animal observation goes. I think the simplest way to describe it would be . . . insight/good judgement. That's easier to define. Crows are the first animals I can think of who demonstrate such examples (only because i've been recently looking up crow intelligence on wikipedia). Rather then dive into a situation and make mistakes until they get something right, they will stand back and think though the best ways to accomplish something. Also, if a crow has a history of theivery (and I can't imagine a crow that doesn't . . . those mischievious little guys) they will use their experience as theives to predict what another theif might do and therefore, knowing the tricks of the trade, avoid being stolen from themselves (for example, changing hiding places of food regularly). Now elephants . . . elephant matriarchs, those who lead the heard, ElephantsRELY on the life experience to survive; finding food, finding ancient waterholes during drought, etc. Alpha wolves may also need wisdom. I imagine cats would need a bit of wisdom to be so elusive. Heck . . . there seems to be bits of wisdom scattered throughout all the animal kingdom; wisdom in the everlasting patience that a python waits in one spot waiting for prey (up to 6 months), wisdom in thepersistence of many animals in finding food or building a home despite countless failures, wisdom in co-operation of social animals. Of course it could be argued that in these examples the animals have no choice and that they don't know any better. If one were to try to answer the question of what is truly the wisest animal, i'd start looking at the most intelligent animals; elephants, great apes, cetaceans, parrots, crows & ravens, etc. I'd especially look at animals that look to leaders of their group and depend notably on life experience. My train of thought sure knows how to take a ride off the beaten track, eh? |
I actually read the entire thing, and I'd like to say that you really did your homework! lol
Anyway, your definition of wisdom is alright.. Insight and understanding would be a nice way to describe it. But also, consciousness, awareness. You can see how intelligent animals are by testing them on intelligence required surroundings. But can you test their wisdom? Do animals even posess wisdom? I mean, as far as I know, the human being is the only one capable of understanding and consciousness.. Are we not the only race which can go against our nature? Are we not the onyl beings with choices, and thus responsability?
How can you call an elephant or a crow wise, when his surrounding simply forces him to do the things he does?
A crow might be more intelligent than a crab for instance, but that may be because more intelligence is required for the crow's way of living. It doesn't make either of them wiser than the other. It's like you said yourself, the elephant relies on the life experience. But it doesn't make it a wise creature. Just a creature who's been forced to live the way it does now to survive. That way, an elephant which manages to live in Africa, isn't necessarily wiser than a musquito which manages to live in Europe.. I believe animals are not capable of wisdom.
No, wisdom can only be compared if it's about two human beings. And even then would it be hard, for how can you find out how wise someone is? Can you read peoples minds? It would be very hard, because maybe it's wiser to not act wise, if you know what I mean.. So how would you recognize a wise person if it's a wise thing to not act wise?
Socrates once said: "The only thing I know, is that I know nothing"
This was a response to all the people in his time claiming to know all the answers.. Socrates meant to say that the only thing he can be sure of, is that he can't be sure of anything. And by knowing that, he at least knew one thing for sure, which was already more than anyone else, because they all thought they knew much.
Anyway, What I mean to say is that wisdom is hard to be measured and recognized. And if any animal contains wisdom, I believe we will never be able to find out, for animals can't communicate with us.