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Bending Lava/Magma

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    etherfreeze

    [21]Oct 27, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Lachlaan wrote:

    Maybe the producers just made a little mistake when they showed that avatar bending the lava. They were probably going more for effect rather than for scientific acuracy.


    Don't say that! Everyone will think your some kind of Ahole (I know this from personal experience) for suggesting that the writers are *gasp* fallible, or even worse that the avatar universe is *shiver* inconsistent.


    point #1 ^this person could be partially right. I wouldn't call it a mistake on the creators' parts so much as a lack of in depth analysis of what lava and magma actually are. Keep in mind it's a nick cartoon, not a discovery channel show being monitored for scientific accuracy. It's pointless to argue about it because ::drumroll:: we're not the creators of the show and unless someone asks them, all we have is speculation. point #2 this is the avatar bending lava not a regular firebender so who knows - maybe it's a mix of both earth and fire
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    shimblue

    [22]Oct 27, 2006
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    But when it shows the avatar make the volcanoes erupt, he puts his hands in the air as he was pushing up something, just like an earthbender move.
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    KilalaRose

    [23]Oct 27, 2006
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    shimblue wrote:
    But when it shows the avatar make the volcanoes erupt, he puts his hands in the air as he was pushing up something, just like an earthbender move.
    yeah, but it would be weird if they showed an Avatar whose native element was fire, but then when they showed him bending it was actually a mixture of the elements. but those are just my thoughts
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    dumbTVnut

    [24]Oct 27, 2006
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    etherfreeze wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Lachlaan wrote:

    Maybe the producers just made a little mistake when they showed that avatar bending the lava. They were probably going more for effect rather than for scientific acuracy.


    Don't say that! Everyone will think your some kind of Ahole (I know this from personal experience) for suggesting that the writers are *gasp* fallible, or even worse that the avatar universe is *shiver* inconsistent.


    point #1 ^this person could be partially right. I wouldn't call it a mistake on the creators' parts so much as a lack of in depth analysis of what lava and magma actually are. Keep in mind it's a nick cartoon, not a discovery channel show being monitored for scientific accuracy. It's pointless to argue about it because ::drumroll:: we're not the creators of the show and unless someone asks them, all we have is speculation. point #2 this is the avatar bending lava not a regular firebender so who knows - maybe it's a mix of both earth and fire


    Oh wow it like your telling me things that I have said repeatedly all across this forum and arguing to me the very same arguments I been saying! Your preaching to the choir here, but I warn you that it may cause ill will between you and other members.
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    Taang_Forever

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    KilalaRose wrote:
    shimblue wrote:
    But when it shows the avatar make the volcanoes erupt, he puts his hands in the air as he was pushing up something, just like an earthbender move.
    yeah, but it would be weird if they showed an Avatar whose native element was fire, but then when they showed him bending it was actually a mixture of the elements. but those are just my thoughts


    I think that's what I said a few posts ago, is that not what i said a few posts ago? Sure, I didn't say it as simple, but stil, I said that!
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    KilalaRose

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    Taang_Forever wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    shimblue wrote:
    But when it shows the avatar make the volcanoes erupt, he puts his hands in the air as he was pushing up something, just like an earthbender move.
    yeah, but it would be weird if they showed an Avatar whose native element was fire, but then when they showed him bending it was actually a mixture of the elements. but those are just my thoughts


    I think that's what I said a few posts ago, is that not what i said a few posts ago? Sure, I didn't say it as simple, but stil, I said that!
    oh, you did? sorry, i don't think i read it
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    Taang_Forever

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    KilalaRose wrote:
    oh, you did? sorry, i don't think i read it


    Well, I'm sorry too. I didn't mean to sound mad or anything. I was doing that more for the humor. No need to apologize, I'm just extra crazy right now. But anyway, we both agree on what we said, and I think we're right.
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    qertvbnpop

    [28]Oct 27, 2006
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    could air, water, and erthbenders bend quicksand?quicksand has all of the components in them. and if it was on fire(?) then every1 could bend it

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    misterham

    [29]Oct 27, 2006
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    quicksand is 0% air

    lava is (i think) 0% water and (definately) 0% air
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    MCMLXVI

    [30]Oct 27, 2006
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    firebenders pull fire off a lava flow
    earthbenders alter the flow of a lava flow
    avatars apply firebending to the earth's crust
    I'm speculating. I don't know if I'm right, but I do remember commenting on it before. The story writers and animators need to get on the ball and resolve this tremendous controversy.
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    qertvbnpop

    [31]Oct 27, 2006
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    quicksand definetly has air. ever watched the mythbusters epidode testing quick said? air bubbles up from underneath it

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    qertvbnpop

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    quicksand definetly has air. ever watched the mythbusters epidode testing quick said? air bubbles up from underneath it

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    KilalaRose

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    qertvbnpop wrote:

    quicksand definetly has air. ever watched the mythbusters epidode testing quick said? air bubbles up from underneath it
    it has air bubbles, but it's not composed of air. according to your theory, anything that has air bubbles can be airbending, and i'm afraid that's not true
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    masterofaeons

    [34]Oct 29, 2006
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    I really respect Avatar for being so canonized and sticking with thier own physics. So far I've only noticed two things that plex me: thier lavabending and the Aang-Airscooter-Earthbend used in Tales of BSS. But I'm willing to look the other way on certain - oooh look, a rabbit!
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    MCMLXVI

    [35]Oct 29, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:

    I respect Avatar for being so canonized and sticking with thier own physics. So far I've only noticed two things that plex me: lavabending and the Aang-Airscooter-Earthbend used in Tales of BSS. But I'm willing to look the other way on certain - oooh look, a rabbit!

    Well, it probably depends on how you felt about Bumi sending up boulders while trapped in a metal box. I began to believe that "light" earthbending tasks can be performed as long as air (or water) in contact with the earthbender is also in contact with earth-bendable material. For a master earthbender, a boulder can be considered "light"; Aang might not have been able to force boulders around while on his scooter, but he looked like he was forcing mud (that dried), which would be "light" for him.

    Edited on 10/29/2006 1:53am
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    masterofaeons

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    I've just resigned on those points entirely. I'd rather not talk about it. *rocks myself slowly in corner, wide eyed*
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    CraZSpork

    [37]Oct 29, 2006
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    First, anyone who would like some background reading on previous discussions of lava bending should read the Advanced Bending thread at [http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/show/28841/advanced-bending/topic/13281-359579/msgs.html]. You may have to dig through some off topic junk, but it is in there somewhere.


    Second, here are some general observations about lava bending.

    1) We have only seen fully realized avatars bend lava.

    2) Based off episode 114 the Fortuneteller, earthbenders cannot bend lava, or they would have used it to divert the lava around the town instead of digging trenches.

    This leads us to believe that only avatars can bend lava, but it is still possible that firebenders can as well. If only avatars can bend lava, it means that they are bending earth and fire at the same time in order to bend lava.

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    etherfreeze

    [38]Oct 29, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    etherfreeze wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Lachlaan wrote:
    Maybe the producers just made a little mistake when they showed that avatar bending the lava. They were probably going more for effect rather than for scientific acuracy.
    Don't say that! Everyone will think your some kind of Ahole (I know this from personal experience) for suggesting that the writers are *gasp* fallible, or even worse that the avatar universe is *shiver* inconsistent.
    point #1 ^this person could be partially right. I wouldn't call it a mistake on the creators' parts so much as a lack of in depth analysis of what lava and magma actually are. Keep in mind it's a nick cartoon, not a discovery channel show being monitored for scientific accuracy. It's pointless to argue about it because ::drumroll:: we're not the creators of the show and unless someone asks them, all we have is speculation. point #2 this is the avatar bending lava not a regular firebender so who knows - maybe it's a mix of both earth and fire
    Oh wow it like your telling me things that I have said repeatedly all across this forum and arguing to me the very same arguments I been saying! Your preaching to the choir here, but I warn you that it may cause ill will between you and other members.

    i have no idea what you're saying - i wasn't trying to argue anthing to you just agree with (mostly) what you said. I don't know why people would get mad at this point since everyone has to agree it IS only a tv show and a nick one one top of that. There's a limit to how in-depth things will get (aka. not real life)

    Edited on 10/29/2006 9:29pm
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    MCMLXVI

    [39]Oct 30, 2006
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    CraZSpork wrote:
    2) Based off episode 114 the Fortuneteller, earthbenders cannot bend lava, or they would have used it to divert the lava around the town instead of digging trenches.
    I suspect master earthbenders would have needed to be closer to the lava to divert the flow, but everyone from the village was ordered to evacuate.
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