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Bad Guys And Not-So-Bad Guys

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    whats-it

    [1]Sep 19, 2006
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    I've noticed in Avatar that there are characters that are not really bad and characters that are just bad. For example, Zuko. He's still considered a bad guy but no one really thinks of him bad. He is what I call a Not-So-Bad Guy. And then there's his sister Azula. Bad Guy.

    So this is what I was wondering. Who thinks who are Bad Guys and Not-So-Bad Guys??

    Bad Guys:

    Azula (Evil reincarnate!!!!!)

    Ozai (Fire Lord who continues the war AND scarred his only son who is the oldest and supposed to take over after he passes)

    Mai (I just don't like the thought of her being nice)

    Guy from CoWaS commercial with kick-butt voice (the voice tells all)

    Not-So-Bad Guy:

    Zuko (DUR!!!)

    Iroh (DUR again!)

    Ty Lee (she MIGHT change sides or just quit the evil business and go back to the circus)

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    e-hero-will

    [2]Sep 19, 2006
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    I know Mai used to have a thing for Zuko, so she might change sides. I hope she does, but she probably won't.
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    whats-it

    [3]Sep 19, 2006
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    e-hero-will wrote:
    I know Mai used to have a thing for Zuko, so she might change sides. I hope she does, but she probably won't.

    I have a theory on that. Mai might've been denied by Zuko and she is plotting revenge. That would explain the change in her behavior. After all, she was this nice quiet little girl in the flashback and as the teenage/woman thing she is now she's mellowed out and mean-looking. I think something happened to her to make her that way. Probably to impress Zuko or something.

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    sadist_activst

    [4]Sep 19, 2006
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    Jet isn't evil ether, just raticl.

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    whats-it

    [5]Sep 19, 2006
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    That depends on what he does in the next eppies. If he doesn't try to kill Zuko by his hands or anyone else's then MAYBE. But if he does something around that then he's evil. And just because Zuko's from the fire nation. Thank got Jet doesn't know who he REALLY is.

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    Breakflame

    [6]Sep 19, 2006
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    It's not so clean-cut. It's a war. If Jet kills them(I just don't see Zuko dying, but that would be an awesome plot-twist), he's doing it for revenge, yes, but he also thinks he's doing it to protect the Earth Nation. But, to put it simply, characters like Zuko, Iroh, and Jet are called "Anti-Heroes". They will either help or hurt the heroes and/or villians for their own gain or for their own reasons.
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    qweasdzse

    [7]Sep 19, 2006
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    switch Ty-lee and mai's places.
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    dumbTVnut

    [8]Sep 19, 2006
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    Not-So-Bad Guy? look up antihero, I think that the term you looking for.
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    Songoftheskies

    [9]Sep 19, 2006
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    I think Jet's more of a villian than an anti-hero.
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    Breakflame

    [10]Sep 19, 2006
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    Songoftheskies wrote:
    I think Jet's more of a villian than an anti-hero.

    Jet just wants to eliminate the Fire Nation(I.E. the bad guys). He'll do anything to do it, that's true. But he isn't an evil person. Just a drastic person.

    Thus, he's an Anti-hero.

    Edited on 09/19/2006 6:06pm
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    Bountyhunterc28

    [11]Sep 20, 2006
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    qweasdzse wrote:
    switch Ty-lee and mai's places.


    Ty Lee doesn't seem like she's a bad guy not because she's always perky, but I think if it wasn't that she wasn't afraid of Azula she would have stayed in the circus.
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    gilvatar

    [12]Sep 22, 2006
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    man it really P's me off when Zuko and Iroh aren't seen as good guys now(in the 2nd season)I KNOW they are not-so-deep-down good guys and NOTHING on this eart will change my mind so if u don't agree then I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT!
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