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Which nation will triumph?

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    Axrendale

    [2581]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Fire Nation, Stop confronting the other nations. Other nations, stop confronting the FN. Axrendale, what the hell did you expect from this RPG? This is EXACTLY what you deserve: You "threated" game wise (which is perfectly fine) to betray and double cross nations many time. You assumed you had an alliance with me, until I got upset (in the game formally speaking) and told you to forget about any possible alliance. Your reasoning to persuade me was tea and the fact that "Air and Fire are superior elements". You also offered me a weak strategy in return, using me to do whatever it is the fire nation needed help doing, because your ships were goofing around. You asked me to betray the water tribes, which I had no intention of doing in the first place. You refuse to let go of your azula fetish during this war RPG and as a result, others have taken action to remove azula one way or another. Same goes for katara, zuko, and toph. But it's too late to fix that. Emoharuno, you probably went too far into detail when you betrayed Axrendale. I asked you to be subtle, NOT To put on a broadway performance play. You were crude, but you were effective. Axrendale played into that one better than I expected, particularly because he sent the secret pm messages telling this and that. Isabel has been fine in all this. I've been neutral most the time, and I was hoping to stay neutral until one nation had fallen. But instead, I was forced to make alliance with the earth kingdom. Axrendale, your attempt from the beginning was to make us fight each other. Examples include: Your proposal for me to betray the water tribe. The earth Kingdom to betray me. And in the same turn, I wanted the water tribe to betray you. And I wanted to become neutral to the earth kingdom. And you would be my enemy. So, you see, this 3-1 thing is just what you get for trying to be smart and controlling. I don't doubt you didn't know about betrayal lurking in your midst, but overall, it doesn't look like you got anywhere yet with your plans. However, MY plans are working.

    Actually, there is a vast, vast difference between what I was doing and this. I admit whole-heartedly that I have been attempting to manipulate everyone around me to my advantage. At no point however, did I ever presume to take control of another nation's soldiers and make moves with them.

    Manipulation is fine. But telling another nation's soldiers what to do and having them do it? No.

    Look me in the eye (figuratively speaking) and tell me that trying to trick someone into making a move is cheating, but making someone else's move for them, to their clear disadvantage, isn't. Go on. I dare you.

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    PsychoPass

    [2582]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.
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    isabelwhatx

    [2583]Sep 11, 2008
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    Let's all just wait until Libraman comes back and posts. Then we can all bicker at each other.
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    Dafoose

    [2584]Sep 11, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    Fire Nation, Stop confronting the other nations. Other nations, stop confronting the FN. Axrendale, what the hell did you expect from this RPG? This is EXACTLY what you deserve: You "threated" game wise (which is perfectly fine) to betray and double cross nations many time. You assumed you had an alliance with me, until I got upset (in the game formally speaking) and told you to forget about any possible alliance. Your reasoning to persuade me was tea and the fact that "Air and Fire are superior elements". You also offered me a weak strategy in return, using me to do whatever it is the fire nation needed help doing, because your ships were goofing around. You asked me to betray the water tribes, which I had no intention of doing in the first place. You refuse to let go of your azula fetish during this war RPG and as a result, others have taken action to remove azula one way or another. Same goes for katara, zuko, and toph. But it's too late to fix that. Emoharuno, you probably went too far into detail when you betrayed Axrendale. I asked you to be subtle, NOT To put on a broadway performance play. You were crude, but you were effective. Axrendale played into that one better than I expected, particularly because he sent the secret pm messages telling this and that. Isabel has been fine in all this. I've been neutral most the time, and I was hoping to stay neutral until one nation had fallen. But instead, I was forced to make alliance with the earth kingdom. Axrendale, your attempt from the beginning was to make us fight each other. Examples include: Your proposal for me to betray the water tribe. The earth Kingdom to betray me. And in the same turn, I wanted the water tribe to betray you. And I wanted to become neutral to the earth kingdom. And you would be my enemy. So, you see, this 3-1 thing is just what you get for trying to be smart and controlling. I don't doubt you didn't know about betrayal lurking in your midst, but overall, it doesn't look like you got anywhere yet with your plans. However, MY plans are working.

    Actually, there is a vast, vast difference between what I was doing and this. I admit whole-heartedly that I have been attempting to manipulate everyone around me to my advantage. At no point however, did I ever presume to take control of another nation's soldiers and make moves with them.

    Manipulation is fine. But telling another nation's soldiers what to do and having them do it? No.

    Look me in the eye (figuratively speaking) and tell me that trying to trick someone into making a move is cheating, but making someone else's move for them, to their clear disadvantage, isn't. Go on. I dare you.


    Lying is cheating. Lying about moves is cheating. *stares into eyes*

    But lying to decieve others is not cheating. Lying to get farther is cheating.

    If in the case that lying to deceive others contributes to getting farther, then that's fine.

    But denying the fact YOU ALREADY MOVED your soldiers is in fact a lie.

    You moved your soldiers on your turn axrendale, and you would not have said ANYTHING if Emoharuno chose to betray me instead of you.

    Therefore, YOU DID move your troops there, so don't give me this BS saying "Oh, emoharuno is moving my troops for me". -_-
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    Dafoose

    [2585]Sep 11, 2008
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    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.


    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been.

    here's what it should have been:

    Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe.

    Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time.

    She forgot to:

    Sweep for mines

    Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend.

    Post in a mature and subtle manner.

    However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round.

    However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.
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    isabelwhatx

    [2586]Sep 11, 2008
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    I've never used the Toph card... ?
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    Axrendale

    [2587]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.
    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been. here's what it should have been: Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe. Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time. She forgot to: Sweep for mines Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend. Post in a mature and subtle manner. However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round. However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.

    Then I'm afraid you are going to lose that round. Big time. Dafoose, why do you care so much about this? Adding characters from the show in the game is just an extra level of the fun. You may find it annoying, but unfortunatly for you, you are in the minority. The rest of us find it to be fun, and are going to keep doing it. Whether you like it or not.

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    EmoHaruno

    [2588]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Fire Nation, Stop confronting the other nations.

    Other nations, stop confronting the FN.

    Axrendale, what the hell did you expect from this RPG? This is EXACTLY what you deserve:

    You "threated" game wise (which is perfectly fine) to betray and double cross nations many time.

    You assumed you had an alliance with me, until I got upset (in the game formally speaking) and told you to forget about any possible alliance.

    Your reasoning to persuade me was tea and the fact that "Air and Fire are superior elements".
    You also offered me a weak strategy in return, using me to do whatever it is the fire nation needed help doing, because your ships were goofing around.

    You asked me to betray the water tribes, which I had no intention of doing in the first place.

    You refuse to let go of your azula fetish during this war RPG and as a result, others have taken action to remove azula one way or another. Same goes for katara, zuko, and toph. But it's too late to fix that.

    Emoharuno, you probably went too far into detail when you betrayed Axrendale. I asked you to be subtle, NOT To put on a broadway performance play. You were crude, but you were effective. Axrendale played into that one better than I expected, particularly because he sent the secret pm messages telling this and that.

    Isabel has been fine in all this. I've been neutral most the time, and I was hoping to stay neutral until one nation had fallen. But instead, I was forced to make alliance with the earth kingdom.

    Axrendale, your attempt from the beginning was to make us fight each other.

    Examples include: Your proposal for me to betray the water tribe.

    The earth Kingdom to betray me.

    And in the same turn, I wanted the water tribe to betray you.

    And I wanted to become neutral to the earth kingdom.

    And you would be my enemy.

    So, you see, this 3-1 thing is just what you get for trying to be smart and controlling.

    I don't doubt you didn't know about betrayal lurking in your midst, but overall, it doesn't look like you got anywhere yet with your plans.

    However, MY plans are working.

    Oh yeah sorry about that XD
    I was in a writing mood
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    EmoHaruno

    [2589]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.


    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been.

    here's what it should have been:

    Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe.

    Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time.

    She forgot to:

    Sweep for mines

    Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend.

    Post in a mature and subtle manner.

    However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round.

    However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.

    I did mention the freed prisoners! And I did bloodbend!
    "and the other waterbenders went to the prison and freed the Earth Kingdom slaves that were located there. Then, all of them escaped to the Southern Water Tribe, where they are being treated now."
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    foxhole7

    [2590]Sep 11, 2008
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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.
    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been. here's what it should have been: Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe. Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time. She forgot to: Sweep for mines Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend. Post in a mature and subtle manner. However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round. However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.
    I did mention the freed prisoners! And I did bloodbend! "and the other waterbenders went to the prison and freed the Earth Kingdom slaves that were located there. Then, all of them escaped to the Southern Water Tribe, where they are being treated now."

    That's true. Oh, and isabel, I played the Toph card once. Sorry .

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    Axrendale

    [2591]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    Fire Nation, Stop confronting the other nations. Other nations, stop confronting the FN. Axrendale, what the hell did you expect from this RPG? This is EXACTLY what you deserve: You "threated" game wise (which is perfectly fine) to betray and double cross nations many time. You assumed you had an alliance with me, until I got upset (in the game formally speaking) and told you to forget about any possible alliance. Your reasoning to persuade me was tea and the fact that "Air and Fire are superior elements". You also offered me a weak strategy in return, using me to do whatever it is the fire nation needed help doing, because your ships were goofing around. You asked me to betray the water tribes, which I had no intention of doing in the first place. You refuse to let go of your azula fetish during this war RPG and as a result, others have taken action to remove azula one way or another. Same goes for katara, zuko, and toph. But it's too late to fix that. Emoharuno, you probably went too far into detail when you betrayed Axrendale. I asked you to be subtle, NOT To put on a broadway performance play. You were crude, but you were effective. Axrendale played into that one better than I expected, particularly because he sent the secret pm messages telling this and that. Isabel has been fine in all this. I've been neutral most the time, and I was hoping to stay neutral until one nation had fallen. But instead, I was forced to make alliance with the earth kingdom. Axrendale, your attempt from the beginning was to make us fight each other. Examples include: Your proposal for me to betray the water tribe. The earth Kingdom to betray me. And in the same turn, I wanted the water tribe to betray you. And I wanted to become neutral to the earth kingdom. And you would be my enemy. So, you see, this 3-1 thing is just what you get for trying to be smart and controlling. I don't doubt you didn't know about betrayal lurking in your midst, but overall, it doesn't look like you got anywhere yet with your plans. However, MY plans are working.

    Actually, there is a vast, vast difference between what I was doing and this. I admit whole-heartedly that I have been attempting to manipulate everyone around me to my advantage. At no point however, did I ever presume to take control of another nation's soldiers and make moves with them.

    Manipulation is fine. But telling another nation's soldiers what to do and having them do it? No.

    Look me in the eye (figuratively speaking) and tell me that trying to trick someone into making a move is cheating, but making someone else's move for them, to their clear disadvantage, isn't. Go on. I dare you.

    Lying is cheating. Lying about moves is cheating. *stares into eyes* But lying to decieve others is not cheating. Lying to get farther is cheating. If in the case that lying to deceive others contributes to getting farther, then that's fine. But denying the fact YOU ALREADY MOVED your soldiers is in fact a lie. You moved your soldiers on your turn axrendale, and you would not have said ANYTHING if Emoharuno chose to betray me instead of you. Therefore, YOU DID move your troops there, so don't give me this BS saying "Oh, emoharuno is moving my troops for me". -_-

    I would dearly like it if you could quote me posting that I was going to attack the Air Temples along with the WT. When you can do so, then I will stop. Until then, I am going to keep protesting my troops being ordered around by someone other than me, or one of my co-FN members.

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    Axrendale

    [2592]Sep 11, 2008
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    foxhole7 wrote:

    EmoHaruno wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.
    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been. here's what it should have been: Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe. Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time. She forgot to: Sweep for mines Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend. Post in a mature and subtle manner. However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round. However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.
    I did mention the freed prisoners! And I did bloodbend! "and the other waterbenders went to the prison and freed the Earth Kingdom slaves that were located there. Then, all of them escaped to the Southern Water Tribe, where they are being treated now."

    That's true. Oh, and isabel, I played the Toph card once. Sorry .

    You have nothing to be sorry about. Just because Dafoose doesn't like it doesn't mean we can't do it. Libraman is judging this game, not Dafoose, and thus far Libraman has found nothing wrong with any of the things Dafoose has been complaining about.

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    foxhole7

    [2593]Sep 11, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    foxhole7 wrote:

    EmoHaruno wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    Dafoose, good post, you've cleared up some things. My only beef with this is that, as you said, the move is too detailed but I'm sure Libraman can fix that.
    Well, I didn't exactly find emoharuno's move to be as clear as it should have been. here's what it should have been: Outcome: Emoharuno attack FN, Air Nomads stay safe. Axrendale loses troops, but not all troops. Emoharuno retreats to Free earth kingdom prisoners, Which she FAILED to mention, mind you emoharuno, please listen to the explicit instructions I've been telling you to do all this time. She forgot to: Sweep for mines Free the EK prisoners and bloodbend. Post in a mature and subtle manner. However, the fact remains that Axrendale was indeed ambushed by water tribe and Air Nomads. So yeah, Axrendale, you lose that round. However guys, I want everyone to discard their "AZULA, TOPH, KATARA, AND ZUKO" cards. I'm sick of all the drama.
    I did mention the freed prisoners! And I did bloodbend! "and the other waterbenders went to the prison and freed the Earth Kingdom slaves that were located there. Then, all of them escaped to the Southern Water Tribe, where they are being treated now."

    That's true. Oh, and isabel, I played the Toph card once. Sorry .

    You have nothing to be sorry about. Just because Dafoose doesn't like it doesn't mean we can't do it. Libraman is judging this game, not Dafoose, and thus far Libraman has found nothing wrong with any of the things Dafoose has been complaining about.

    okay

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    Dafoose

    [2594]Sep 11, 2008
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    Axrendale, I already said many many times that I don't care about special characters like azula because I CAN'T do anything about it.

    thanks for pointing out the obvious again.

    Also, Emoharuno sent me the messages you sent her, telling me that you were going to attack me.

    You also said yourself several times in these forums that you were also going to attack three of the temples at once.

    You planned on using emoharuno's bloodbending and your arson to DESTROY three of the air temples at once.

    Do you deny these facts? Whether I'm quoting you or not?

    And I'm sorry emoharuno, I guess I missed those parts. I'm really sorry about not reading that part about the prisoners.
    good job. Please forgive me.
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    Axrendale

    [2595]Sep 11, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale, I already said many many times that I don't care about special characters like azula because I CAN'T do anything about it. thanks for pointing out the obvious again. Also, Emoharuno sent me the messages you sent her, telling me that you were going to attack me. You also said yourself several times in these forums that you were also going to attack three of the temples at once. You planned on using emoharuno's bloodbending and your arson to DESTROY three of the air temples at once. Do you deny these facts? Whether I'm quoting you or not? And I'm sorry emoharuno, I guess I missed those parts. I'm really sorry about not reading that part about the prisoners. good job. Please forgive me.

    Let's cut the pretences. I do not deny that I sent EmoHaruno several pms postulating an attack on the Air temples. I also don't deny (at this stage there's no point) that I fully intended never to actually attack, sending the WT to their graves.

    If EmoHaruno showed you all of our correspondence, then you know that I told her to wait on that move until I could send a pm to Libraman asking permission for us to make our move jointly, so that I could successfully pull my troops out at the last minute (that was the plan, anyway).

    At no point did I ever give the WT permission to take my troops out for me. I especially did not give permission for Azula to go. And what the heck was I doing out there too?!!!

    Yeah, I lied. Guess what? That's part of the game. A big part of this game is bluffing and outmaneuvering your opponents, which I have done my best to do. I would like to point out that thus far I have never been the one to end a single Alliance. Both the EK and the WT walked out on me, pretty much proving ThisCrazyGuy's point that nobody in this game can be trusted.

    We've all lied to and manipulated eachother ever since the start of the game. So get with the program Dafoose. This is what the game has become.

    Do you know why the game has become like this? Because it is all we can do. Up until now, I am the only player to have done anything resembling a major offensive against my opponents. EmoHaruno's latest move doesn't count - I still maintain that my troops should not have been moved to attack by anyone other than me.

    Edited on 09/11/2008 9:07pm
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    foxhole7

    [2596]Sep 11, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale, I already said many many times that I don't care about special characters like azula because I CAN'T do anything about it. thanks for pointing out the obvious again. Also, Emoharuno sent me the messages you sent her, telling me that you were going to attack me. You also said yourself several times in these forums that you were also going to attack three of the temples at once. You planned on using emoharuno's bloodbending and your arson to DESTROY three of the air temples at once. Do you deny these facts? Whether I'm quoting you or not? And I'm sorry emoharuno, I guess I missed those parts. I'm really sorry about not reading that part about the prisoners. good job. Please forgive me.

    Let's cut the pretences. I do not deny that I sent EmoHaruno several pms postulating an attack on the Air temples. I also don't deny (at this stage there's no point) that I fully intended never to actually attack, sending the WT to their graves.

    If EmoHaruno showed you all of our correspondence, then you know that I told her to wait on that move until I could send a pm to Libraman asking permission for us to make our move jointly, so that I could successfully pull my troops out at the last minute (that was the plan, anyway).

    At no point did I ever give the WT permission to take my troops out for me. I especially did not give permission for Azula to go. And what the heck was I doing out there too?!!!

    Yeah, I lied. Guess what? That's part of the game. A big part of this game is bluffing and outmaneuvering your opponents, which I have done my best to do. I would like to point out that thus far I have never been the one to end a single Alliance. Both the EK and the WT walked out on me, pretty much proving ThisCrazyGuy's point that nobody in this game can be trusted.

    We've all lied to and manipulated eachother ever since the start of the game. So get with the program Dafoose. This is what thegame has become.

    Do you know why the game has become like this? Because it is all we can do. Up until now, I am the only player to have done anything resembling a major offensive against my opponents. EmoHaruno's latest move doesn't count - I still maintain that my troops should not have been moved to attack by anyone other than me.

    Okay, when you say "nobody can be trusted" let's clarify that that statement includes you as well as us (see above post by Dafoose). But you're right, I think we all have done things we're not proud of in this war. Except Dafoose, that is, I don't think he's done anything dishonorable yet. And just for the record, that part about the EK "walking out on you" doesn't make us "untrustworthy". It's not like we allied with you and then betrayed you. Isabel cut the alliance off before it even started because she knew that you would probably do to us what you were planning to do to the WT's.

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    Axrendale

    [2597]Sep 11, 2008
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    foxhole7 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale, I already said many many times that I don't care about special characters like azula because I CAN'T do anything about it. thanks for pointing out the obvious again. Also, Emoharuno sent me the messages you sent her, telling me that you were going to attack me. You also said yourself several times in these forums that you were also going to attack three of the temples at once. You planned on using emoharuno's bloodbending and your arson to DESTROY three of the air temples at once. Do you deny these facts? Whether I'm quoting you or not? And I'm sorry emoharuno, I guess I missed those parts. I'm really sorry about not reading that part about the prisoners. good job. Please forgive me.

    Let's cut the pretences. I do not deny that I sent EmoHaruno several pms postulating an attack on the Air temples. I also don't deny (at this stage there's no point) that I fully intended never to actually attack, sending the WT to their graves.

    If EmoHaruno showed you all of our correspondence, then you know that I told her to wait on that move until I could send a pm to Libraman asking permission for us to make our move jointly, so that I could successfully pull my troops out at the last minute (that was the plan, anyway).

    At no point did I ever give the WT permission to take my troops out for me. I especially did not give permission for Azula to go. And what the heck was I doing out there too?!!!

    Yeah, I lied. Guess what? That's part of the game. A big part of this game is bluffing and outmaneuvering your opponents, which I have done my best to do. I would like to point out that thus far I have never been the one to end a single Alliance. Both the EK and the WT walked out on me, pretty much proving ThisCrazyGuy's point that nobody in this game can be trusted.

    We've all lied to and manipulated eachother ever since the start of the game. So get with the program Dafoose. This is what thegame has become.

    Do you know why the game has become like this? Because it is all we can do. Up until now, I am the only player to have done anything resembling a major offensive against my opponents. EmoHaruno's latest move doesn't count - I still maintain that my troops should not have been moved to attack by anyone other than me.

    Okay, when you say "nobody can be trusted" let's clarify that that statement includes you as well as us (see above post by Dafoose). But you're right, I think we all have done things we're not proud of in this war. Except Dafoose, that is, I don't think he's done anything dishonorable yet. And just for the record, that part about the EK "walking out on you" doesn't make us "untrustworthy". It's not like we allied with you and then betrayed you. Isabel cut the alliance off before it even started because she knew that you would probably do to us what you were planning to do to the WT's.

    Heh - me, trusted? I can't believe that somebody just used those two words in the same sentence in the context of an RPG. Of course I can't be trusted. Neither can you. Nobody can be trusted. Dafoose hasn't really betrayed anyone yet, but then, since the start of the game all he has really done is sit back, upgrade his troops, and complain about my moves.

    When all is said and done, this game has gotten seriously off track. We have effectively reduced the game to a cold war in which everyone tries to outmaneuver eachother without attacking. Well, that's about to end. It's time to get serious. Someone has to make a major attack, and it looks like it's gonna have to be me.

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    Dafoose

    [2598]Sep 11, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale, I already said many many times that I don't care about special characters like azula because I CAN'T do anything about it. thanks for pointing out the obvious again. Also, Emoharuno sent me the messages you sent her, telling me that you were going to attack me. You also said yourself several times in these forums that you were also going to attack three of the temples at once. You planned on using emoharuno's bloodbending and your arson to DESTROY three of the air temples at once. Do you deny these facts? Whether I'm quoting you or not? And I'm sorry emoharuno, I guess I missed those parts. I'm really sorry about not reading that part about the prisoners. good job. Please forgive me.

    Let's cut the pretences. I do not deny that I sent EmoHaruno several pms postulating an attack on the Air temples. I also don't deny (at this stage there's no point) that I fully intended never to actually attack, sending the WT to their graves.

    If EmoHaruno showed you all of our correspondence, then you know that I told her to wait on that move until I could send a pm to Libraman asking permission for us to make our move jointly, so that I could successfully pull my troops out at the last minute (that was the plan, anyway).

    At no point did I ever give the WT permission to take my troops out for me. I especially did not give permission for Azula to go. And what the heck was I doing out there too?!!!

    Yeah, I lied. Guess what? That's part of the game. A big part of this game is bluffing and outmaneuvering your opponents, which I have done my best to do. I would like to point out that thus far I have never been the one to end a single Alliance. Both the EK and the WT walked out on me, pretty much proving ThisCrazyGuy's point that nobody in this game can be trusted.

    We've all lied to and manipulated eachother ever since the start of the game. So get with the program Dafoose. This is what the game has become.

    Do you know why the game has become like this? Because it is all we can do. Up until now, I am the only player to have done anything resembling a major offensive against my opponents. EmoHaruno's latest move doesn't count - I still maintain that my troops should not have been moved to attack by anyone other than me.


    That's what I'm talking about that I think is wrong in the game though. There should be a rule saying "A move that is made is made, you can't say that I moved so and so people here, but I never actually really did." Contradicting yourself didn't exactly make things simpler for everyone to understand when You said "I didn't send troops in" ...Where as emoharuno keeps on saying "Yes, you did".

    So, Basically, I'm believing both of you. That's a good thing.

    I'm not belieiving you when you said, "Sending the waterbenders to their graves" because you're switching your move. Lyke I was going to attack the WT. Instead of attacking with the waterbenders like you said previously, you aren't. So basically, you gave us a false move. in other words, your own words contradicted the actions you said you were going to take. therefore, you didn't decieve us, you made an illegal move. A contradictory move.

    I can understand that emoharuno went overboard: when I saw that you said you never sent your troops in, I facepalmed, thinking emoharuno made a big mistake assuming information.

    I was under the impression that the water tribe and the fire nation were actually not attacking together, until you said that you wanted to merge turns.

    But still, emoharuno shouldn't have assumed kills, Captives, prisoner, just lyke I told you before, (back when it was assumed agriculture etc, your moves are better now, sorry for using the example) Libraman's job to read the numbers and statistics of a battle, that way, we don't get this grungy feeling.

    so in my perspective, whether or not azula was captured, I don't know and I don't care. You can say there was a back door in the air temples, and she took it as soon as things got bad, taking her rocket powered war ballon back, using her fire bending to fly around and eat italian ice cream.

    So still, if emo haruno didn't betray you as in "turning on you in the middle of a battle" Then she would've turned on you in other wayz and stuff. So basically, yeah, Emoharuno's move was illegal in a way, but only becuase you had to make everything so god darn confusing. So I'm blaming you for your own contradiction you got yourself in between emoharuno's statement and your state ment.

    I'm only making it clear.
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    avataraang113

    [2599]Sep 11, 2008
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    oh my goodness people!!! this is madness!!!! stop posting novels!!! i want to know what ur talking about without having to read 100 pages of arguing and crap...just please shrink your posts to like...maybe....A PARAGRAPH!!!! i understand that there are big events happening in this game, but we need to stop posting very large posts....it will just make people confused and they wont want to read it cuz its too long! thank you...i hope you understand
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    ThisCrazyGuy

    [2600]Sep 12, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    I advocate that we now wait for Libraman to get here. He must be the judge of this outrage.
    ROFLMAO. I told you you would go downnn Libraman has known all along. He'll tip it in our favor, I'm sure. VICTORY IS SWEET!
    *Reverts into funny, competitive, egotistical self that everybody finds annoying *... Libraman may have possibly known, but at the end of the day, when all is said and done, he won't "favour" you at all... I don't ALWAYS agree with him on some of his methods when it comes to calling this RPG, but he's a very fair person... And if he does favour you, all you will be proving, is that, with a whole THREE nations (you) vs ONE nation (us), you are still weak and cowardly, you still need a unfair advantage, you still need a huge amount of a help, you still enjoy playing the numbers game, and you need a BIAS person with a huge amount of authority to keep you on you inferior feet... Infact, if anything, with the tight corner we are in now, he will probably help us (The Fire Nation). *Reverts back to ordinary self*... Hey everybody! # LOL, for the record, I wasn't being serious, I was just playing around...
    There is some truth behind every joke I would like to point out that we are NOT cowardly in any way, shape, or form, just simply resourceful. We had a plan and executed it. I'm sure Axrendale would've done the same. Since when has your nation been playing fair? Exactly. You're all just bitter because one of your allies betrayed you.

    I'm not bitter because my allies betrayed me. I was planning to stab them in the back shortly afterwards, in any case, so ut makes little difference to me.


    I was just about to point that out to ThisCrazyGuy, rofl. He obviously doesn't have a correct perception of you.
    Ahh, yes, but, if you actually bothered to use your brain and read my latest, more peaceful post, you would have seen that I virtually corrected myself, and said that war games and RPG's are made for those things to happen... As Human Beings, it's in our nature to playfully double-cross eachother, that is what makes games of any kind, FUN (At this point I was also aware that Axrendale WOULD do the same thing)! I corrected my past mistake and offered you a peaceful chance to bury the stupid, pointless-existing hatch, but typically, you refused...
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