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Which nation will triumph?

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    Axrendale

    [2681]Sep 13, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:

    Yeah, that's pretty much the whole story.

    But it was meant to accomodate everyone, so I knew this in the beginning, that I'd be sacrificing part of my turn, instead of making axrendale sacrficing his own turn.

    Back then...I did it because I didn't want axrendale to complain, because it would be giving the other nations against him an unfair advantage when the order was going to get switched. I knew that if I made it so that The space between my turn and his was five turns long instead of the evenly spaced four.

    But now, after seeing his treachery game wise, and how he lied to isabels face when she asked him a straight forward question, I don't think he deserves a turn PERIOD. But that's just my gut instinct.

    Which means that I get to go After Axrendale, instead of making him wait the extra turn. So your welcome axrendale. Now be quiet.

    Got some bad news for you mate - I'm not going to be quiet. Ever. I don't see myself putting a stop to the manipulation part of the game in the immediate future either. I know you don't like it, but I find it fun, and so does Isabel, EmoHaruno, Libraman, pretty much everyone except you. Ever heard the saying "majority rules"?

    And I never lied to Isabel. At least, not in anything that wasn't part of an elaborate con game to try and trick the Earth Kingdom into setting up it's own destruction But everyone has been doing that, so I think I'm in the clear.

    Seriously though, you've never even really given me a straight answer - what the heck was I lying about? Could you quote the question, and my response to it, please?

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    ThisCrazyGuy

    [2682]Sep 13, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Axrendale is my friend, and I do not like the way Dafoose spoke to him in that post, so I voiced my opinion... You are free to voice yours, but don't go leaking false statements...

    Thank you, ThisCrazyGuy That really means a lot

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    PsychoPass

    [2683]Sep 13, 2008
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    Guys... Please. Please just continue playing the game. As much as I and EVERYBODY ELSE loves reading your 20 page long bickering and squabbling there is a game to play.

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    Axrendale

    [2684]Sep 13, 2008
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    PsychoPass wrote:

    Guys... Please. Please just continue playing the game. As much as I and EVERYBODY ELSE loves reading your 20 page long bickering and squabbling there is a game to play.

    We can't play. There is absolutely nothing to do until Libraman comes to a ruling on the Air temple Attack controversy, and the Earth Kingdom makes it's move.

    However, I am sorry for the 20 pages of veritable verbal Agni Kai. But I'm the type of guy who can never resist making a response to an argument. I guess it's just not in my nature to back down. Anyway, I've come up with a new plan - I'll pm you in a moment.

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    avataraang113

    [2685]Sep 13, 2008
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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    I'm just waiting for my turn so I can pwn axrendale.

    I'm afraid, Dafoose, that you own arguments have worked against you Libraman has finally agreed to chane the cycle of turns to "Water, Earth, Fire, Air". It's currently the turn of the Earth Kingdom. After that, the comet comes. Then you can go. If you're still around

    For now, of course, we await the mess over my troops to be sorted out.

    No, because that should happen AFTER I go. You already had your turn previously. Too bad you don't control the RPG axrendale. Also libraman, why would you change the cycle NOW? We should wait for the next RPG to make major changes. And this RPG doesn't work for you Axrendale, it never has and it never will. Which is why I'm quitting the next one. I'll choose who'll succeed me later, but I don't want to argue with a two face all day, every day, baby sitting all of you every time libraman isn't here to do something. So just shutup and RP. Keep it simple and don't MUCK with other people, got it? Also axrendale, why should I believe you?
    Wow... Aren't you meant to be in college? You must be around the age of an early adult now, and I must say, your attitude is pathetic and extremely immature... I am actually REALLY surprised that someone like you could be such a rude person (I thought you would be one of the people I would look up to in these forums)... I have had arguments with people, at one point even you, but I have never resorted to blatanly rude, un-called for, insults... You should actually be setting the example for some of the newbies...

    yes ThisCrazyGuy....you have been in arguments...pointless ones...THAT YOU STARTED!!! you make them bigger than they really are...so just let Dafoose and Axrendale(idk if i spelled it right) settle it through Pm's or something....

    Hang on, arguments that I started...? I didn't start any of them... Maybe they have been pointless to YOU, but some people in the world are different to you... Ever think that maybe YOU think they are pointless, but I don't? And I haven't been in that much arguments at all, much-less started arguments... I have spoke my mind, I haven't started ANY... You, do NOT know me, or most of my history in these Forums... And I do not make them bigger than they really are... How on earth would you know? Maybe I'm just a sensitive person...

    I can't give evidence, but to make you happy, IMO, you start pointless arguments sometimes. Sometimes when I am going through the threads and see some arguments spark up, I notice that YOU started it. Well at least most of the arguments you are in you started. Also, I have observed that you ARE sometimes sensitive. I'm not saying that I know you and I know your personality, but on the forums, you can blow up in people's faces and start arguments and just shoot back at others that were stating something. I don't know which threads you've started these arguments, but I do know that you can be a little, well, not mean, but just a little scary when you get mad. Not intimidating, just scary. It makes people not want to talk to you because you can get mad someties...everyone can, even I do. I don't want to continue this conversation anymore, so please, lets just be friends. I'm sorry if I insulted you, it might be false judgment(sp...is there an "e" after the "g"?) so please don't fire back at me. Let Dafoose and Axrendale trash the thread with their argument (no offense guys).

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    Axrendale

    [2686]Sep 13, 2008
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    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    I'm just waiting for my turn so I can pwn axrendale.

    I'm afraid, Dafoose, that you own arguments have worked against you Libraman has finally agreed to chane the cycle of turns to "Water, Earth, Fire, Air". It's currently the turn of the Earth Kingdom. After that, the comet comes. Then you can go. If you're still around

    For now, of course, we await the mess over my troops to be sorted out.

    No, because that should happen AFTER I go. You already had your turn previously. Too bad you don't control the RPG axrendale. Also libraman, why would you change the cycle NOW? We should wait for the next RPG to make major changes. And this RPG doesn't work for you Axrendale, it never has and it never will. Which is why I'm quitting the next one. I'll choose who'll succeed me later, but I don't want to argue with a two face all day, every day, baby sitting all of you every time libraman isn't here to do something. So just shutup and RP. Keep it simple and don't MUCK with other people, got it? Also axrendale, why should I believe you?
    Wow... Aren't you meant to be in college? You must be around the age of an early adult now, and I must say, your attitude is pathetic and extremely immature... I am actually REALLY surprised that someone like you could be such a rude person (I thought you would be one of the people I would look up to in these forums)... I have had arguments with people, at one point even you, but I have never resorted to blatanly rude, un-called for, insults... You should actually be setting the example for some of the newbies...

    yes ThisCrazyGuy....you have been in arguments...pointless ones...THAT YOU STARTED!!! you make them bigger than they really are...so just let Dafoose and Axrendale(idk if i spelled it right) settle it through Pm's or something....

    Hang on, arguments that I started...? I didn't start any of them... Maybe they have been pointless to YOU, but some people in the world are different to you... Ever think that maybe YOU think they are pointless, but I don't? And I haven't been in that much arguments at all, much-less started arguments... I have spoke my mind, I haven't started ANY... You, do NOT know me, or most of my history in these Forums... And I do not make them bigger than they really are... How on earth would you know? Maybe I'm just a sensitive person...

    I can't give evidence, but to make you happy, IMO, you start pointless arguments sometimes. Sometimes when I am going through the threads and see some arguments spark up, I notice that YOU started it. Well at least most of the arguments you are in you started. Also, I have observed that you ARE sometimes sensitive. I'm not saying that I know you and I know your personality, but on the forums, you can blow up in people's faces and start arguments and just shoot back at others that were stating something. I don't know which threads you've started these arguments, but I do know that you can be a little, well, not mean, but just a little scary when you get mad. Not intimidating, just scary. It makes people not want to talk to you because you can get mad someties...everyone can, even I do. I don't want to continue this conversation anymore, so please, lets just be friends. I'm sorry if I insulted you, it might be false judgment(sp...is there an "e" after the "g"?)so please don't fire back at me. Let Dafoose and Axrendale trash the thread with their argument (no offense guys).

    None taken. But hey, I'm simply returning exactly what I'm given. Could you do me a favor - talk to your leader. Try and calm him down. I'm willing to stop this whenever he is (apparently, he isn't).

    I'd apologize (again), but I have a suspicion that if I did so, his response would be similar to what he said last time I tried to do so

    And if you're worried about spelling, that's what the "Check Spelling" button is for.

    Edited on 09/13/2008 8:12pm
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    avataraang113

    [2687]Sep 13, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    I'm just waiting for my turn so I can pwn axrendale.

    I'm afraid, Dafoose, that you own arguments have worked against you Libraman has finally agreed to chane the cycle of turns to "Water, Earth, Fire, Air". It's currently the turn of the Earth Kingdom. After that, the comet comes. Then you can go. If you're still around

    For now, of course, we await the mess over my troops to be sorted out.

    No, because that should happen AFTER I go. You already had your turn previously. Too bad you don't control the RPG axrendale. Also libraman, why would you change the cycle NOW? We should wait for the next RPG to make major changes. And this RPG doesn't work for you Axrendale, it never has and it never will. Which is why I'm quitting the next one. I'll choose who'll succeed me later, but I don't want to argue with a two face all day, every day, baby sitting all of you every time libraman isn't here to do something. So just shutup and RP. Keep it simple and don't MUCK with other people, got it? Also axrendale, why should I believe you?
    Wow... Aren't you meant to be in college? You must be around the age of an early adult now, and I must say, your attitude is pathetic and extremely immature... I am actually REALLY surprised that someone like you could be such a rude person (I thought you would be one of the people I would look up to in these forums)... I have had arguments with people, at one point even you, but I have never resorted to blatanly rude, un-called for, insults... You should actually be setting the example for some of the newbies...

    yes ThisCrazyGuy....you have been in arguments...pointless ones...THAT YOU STARTED!!! you make them bigger than they really are...so just let Dafoose and Axrendale(idk if i spelled it right) settle it through Pm's or something....

    Hang on, arguments that I started...? I didn't start any of them... Maybe they have been pointless to YOU, but some people in the world are different to you... Ever think that maybe YOU think they are pointless, but I don't? And I haven't been in that much arguments at all, much-less started arguments... I have spoke my mind, I haven't started ANY... You, do NOT know me, or most of my history in these Forums... And I do not make them bigger than they really are... How on earth would you know? Maybe I'm just a sensitive person...

    I can't give evidence, but to make you happy, IMO, you start pointless arguments sometimes. Sometimes when I am going through the threads and see some arguments spark up, I notice that YOU started it. Well at least most of the arguments you are in you started. Also, I have observed that you ARE sometimes sensitive. I'm not saying that I know you and I know your personality, but on the forums, you can blow up in people's faces and start arguments and just shoot back at others that were stating something. I don't know which threads you've started these arguments, but I do know that you can be a little, well, not mean, but just a little scary when you get mad. Not intimidating, just scary. It makes people not want to talk to you because you can get mad someties...everyone can, even I do. I don't want to continue this conversation anymore, so please, lets just be friends. I'm sorry if I insulted you, it might be false judgment(sp...is there an "e" after the "g"?)so please don't fire back at me. Let Dafoose and Axrendale trash the thread with their argument (no offense guys).

    None taken. But hey, I'm simply returning exactly what I'm given. Could you do me a favor - talk to your leader. Try and calm him down. I'm willing to stop this whenever he is (apparently, he isn't).

    I'd apologize (again), but I have a suspicion that if I did so, his response would be similar to what he said last time I tried to do so

    And if you're worried about spelling, that's what the "Check Spelling" button is for.

    oh my gosh...for the past couple months...ive been pulling a Toph...i cant believe I couldnt see that button!!! ahhhhhahahaha!!!!

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    EmoHaruno

    [2689]Sep 13, 2008
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    PsychoPass wrote:

    Guys... Please. Please just continue playing the game. As much as I and EVERYBODY ELSE loves reading your 20 page long bickering and squabbling there is a game to play.


    Thank you PsychoPass, you put the words out of my mouth into the board.
    ....If that makes sense XD
    Hm, where is Libraman?
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    avataraang113

    [2690]Sep 13, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:

    Guys... Please. Please just continue playing the game. As much as I and EVERYBODY ELSE loves reading your 20 page long bickering and squabbling there is a game to play.

    We can't play. There is absolutely nothing to do until Libraman comes to a ruling on the Air temple Attack controversy, and the Earth Kingdom makes it's move.

    However, I am sorry for the 20 pages of veritable verbal Agni Kai. But I'm the type of guy who can never resist making a response to an argument. I guess it's just not in my nature to back down. Anyway, I've come up with a new plan - I'll pm you in a moment.

    you mean if we go next? cuz we never went...well for a while that is

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    foxhole7

    [2691]Sep 13, 2008
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    PsychoPass wrote:

    Guys... Please. Please just continue playing the game. As much as I and EVERYBODY ELSE loves reading your 20 page long bickering and squabbling there is a game to play.

    THANK YOU!!!

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    foxhole7

    [2692]Sep 13, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Axrendale is my friend, and I do not like the way Dafoose spoke to him in that post, so I voiced my opinion... You are free to voice yours, but don't go leaking false statements...

    Thank you, ThisCrazyGuy That really means a lot

    LOL I barely know Axrendale (who is he again?) and I still agree that Dafoose has taken things a little too far.

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    ThisCrazyGuy

    [2693]Sep 14, 2008
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    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:
    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Dafoose wrote:
    I'm just waiting for my turn so I can pwn axrendale.

    I'm afraid, Dafoose, that you own arguments have worked against you Libraman has finally agreed to chane the cycle of turns to "Water, Earth, Fire, Air". It's currently the turn of the Earth Kingdom. After that, the comet comes. Then you can go. If you're still around

    For now, of course, we await the mess over my troops to be sorted out.

    No, because that should happen AFTER I go. You already had your turn previously. Too bad you don't control the RPG axrendale. Also libraman, why would you change the cycle NOW? We should wait for the next RPG to make major changes. And this RPG doesn't work for you Axrendale, it never has and it never will. Which is why I'm quitting the next one. I'll choose who'll succeed me later, but I don't want to argue with a two face all day, every day, baby sitting all of you every time libraman isn't here to do something. So just shutup and RP. Keep it simple and don't MUCK with other people, got it? Also axrendale, why should I believe you?
    Wow... Aren't you meant to be in college? You must be around the age of an early adult now, and I must say, your attitude is pathetic and extremely immature... I am actually REALLY surprised that someone like you could be such a rude person (I thought you would be one of the people I would look up to in these forums)... I have had arguments with people, at one point even you, but I have never resorted to blatanly rude, un-called for, insults... You should actually be setting the example for some of the newbies...

    yes ThisCrazyGuy....you have been in arguments...pointless ones...THAT YOU STARTED!!! you make them bigger than they really are...so just let Dafoose and Axrendale(idk if i spelled it right) settle it through Pm's or something....

    Hang on, arguments that I started...? I didn't start any of them... Maybe they have been pointless to YOU, but some people in the world are different to you... Ever think that maybe YOU think they are pointless, but I don't? And I haven't been in that much arguments at all, much-less started arguments... I have spoke my mind, I haven't started ANY... You, do NOT know me, or most of my history in these Forums... And I do not make them bigger than they really are... How on earth would you know? Maybe I'm just a sensitive person...

    I can't give evidence, but to make you happy, IMO, you start pointless arguments sometimes. Sometimes when I am going through the threads and see some arguments spark up, I notice that YOU started it. Well at least most of the arguments you are in you started. Also, I have observed that you ARE sometimes sensitive. I'm not saying that I know you and I know your personality, but on the forums, you can blow up in people's faces and start arguments and just shoot back at others that were stating something. I don't know which threads you've started these arguments, but I do know that you can be a little, well, not mean, but just a little scary when you get mad. Not intimidating, just scary. It makes people not want to talk to you because you can get mad someties...everyone can, even I do. I don't want to continue this conversation anymore, so please, lets just be friends. I'm sorry if I insulted you, it might be false judgment(sp...is there an "e" after the "g"?) so please don't fire back at me. Let Dafoose and Axrendale trash the thread with their argument (no offense guys).

    Well, that is perfectly fair... I am a very sensitive person, BUT, I would hope if people have a problem with me, or are intimidated by me, that they would confront of tell me, so I haev a good idea on what everyone wants and thinks.
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    Dafoose

    [2694]Sep 14, 2008
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    Avataraang, it's ok, you don't need to defend me.

    Look axrendale, as long as we can remain friends outside this thread, I'd be more than happy to stop arguing.

    If you want a straightforward answer, I'm giving you a hard time because you "did not speak truthfully" when you answered isabel, who also asked you a straight forward question. What compelled you to lie about your actions at the time? Why did you feel the need to pretend that you didn't know things, when it was obvious I was going to point out which statements of yours were false?
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    Axrendale

    [2695]Sep 14, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Avataraang, it's ok, you don't need to defend me. Look axrendale, as long as we can remain friends outside this thread, I'd be more than happy to stop arguing. If you want a straightforward answer, I'm giving you a hard time because you "did not speak truthfully" when you answered isabel, who also asked you a straight forward question. What compelled you to lie about your actions at the time? Why did you feel the need to pretend that you didn't know things, when it was obvious I was going to point out which statements of yours were false?

    I'm really sorry, but I genuinely have no idea what you're talking

    I am certain that I have never given a false answer to any of Isabel's questions that didn't somehow relate to my attacks, and what I was planning with them. Could you please quote Isabel's question, and my response?

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    Dafoose

    [2696]Sep 14, 2008
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    Fine.
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I have a question, and don't lie, Axrendale, just because it'll get you out of this mess. I agree with Axrendale, as much as it may hurt me, but he never actually confirmed that he was going to attack. So this question WON'T COUNT. For now, it's up to libraman to decide whether it should be allowed. Anyway... Were you honestly going to attack the ANT? I thought you were onto EmoHaruno and were going to attack me, and that's why I upped my defenses. No matter WHAT Axrendale says to this, it doesn't matter. So don't use this against him. I'm honestly curious and I don't want you all to ruin my fun

    Actually, to tell you the truth, I was never going to attack Chameleon Bay. All my subtle hints that it was about to come under attack were actually just a ruse to get you to tie up as many troops as possible.

    And I was never going to attack any of the Air Temples. That was just a fancy pic I sent to EmoHaruno. Had things gone according to plan, EmoHaruno would have attacked the temples, expecting me to follow up by posting that I lent troops to aid her (as happened at the last battle of Chameleon Bay). Instead, I would have thumbed my nose at her and ended the alliance. Had things not gone according to plan, EmoHaruno might have ended the alliance and attacked me outright, or simply refused to attack the Temples.

    Instead of going according or not according to plan, however, EmoHaruno presumed to simply order my troops into battle. Which I quite frankly will not stand for.

    And then....
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    What do you mean? I had no idea that EmoHaruno was going to betray me, if that's what you are referring to.

    All I'm going to say is: lies. You knew because you recognized the fact that Dafoose had an insight on your plan before you posted it.

    In bold, are these "fancy Pics" your sad pathetic excuse for making an unofficial move? so that you could retrace your steps if things didn't work to plan?

    Like I said, that's cheating. Once you make a decision, that's it. You can't retrace your steps.

    It's like chess. You can't move your peices after you lift your hand.

    Edited on 09/14/2008 1:27pm
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    Dafoose

    [2697]Sep 14, 2008
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    But isn't that interesting how it says "Don't use it against him?" You would think you would have nothing to worry about.
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    Axrendale

    [2698]Sep 14, 2008
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    Dafoose wrote:
    Fine.
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I have a question, and don't lie, Axrendale, just because it'll get you out of this mess. I agree with Axrendale, as much as it may hurt me, but he never actually confirmed that he was going to attack. So this question WON'T COUNT. For now, it's up to libraman to decide whether it should be allowed. Anyway... Were you honestly going to attack the ANT? I thought you were onto EmoHaruno and were going to attack me, and that's why I upped my defenses. No matter WHAT Axrendale says to this, it doesn't matter. So don't use this against him. I'm honestly curious and I don't want you all to ruin my fun

    Actually, to tell you the truth, I was never going to attack Chameleon Bay. All my subtle hints that it was about to come under attack were actually just a ruse to get you to tie up as many troops as possible.

    And I was never going to attack any of the Air Temples. That was just a fancy pic I sent to EmoHaruno. Had things gone according to plan, EmoHaruno would have attacked the temples, expecting me to follow up by posting that I lent troops to aid her (as happened at the last battle of Chameleon Bay). Instead, I would have thumbed my nose at her and ended the alliance. Had things not gone according to plan, EmoHaruno might have ended the alliance and attacked me outright, or simply refused to attack the Temples.

    Instead of going according or not according to plan, however, EmoHaruno presumed to simply order my troops into battle. Which I quite frankly will not stand for.

    And then....
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    What do you mean? I had no idea that EmoHaruno was going to betray me, if that's what you are referring to.

    All I'm going to say is: lies. You knew because you recognized the fact that Dafoose had an insight on your plan before you posted it.

    In bold, are these "fancy Pics" your sad pathetic excuse for making an unofficial move? so that you could retrace your steps if things didn't work to plan?

    Like I said, that's cheating. Once you make a decision, that's it. You can't retrace your steps.

    It's like chess. You can't move your peices after you lift your hand.

    Okay, let's deal with these, and hopefully end this argument once and for all.

    You cannot take back a move in chess. That is against the rules. But it is not against the rules to take a piece of paper, draw out a chess board, and then make a picture of a move that you might make, and wave it around in the air, showing everyone your move. There is no rule that says you cannot tell the other player what you are going to do, and then change your mind and do something else entirely. There is no rule that says you cannot say "I will move my knight to B3 next move:, and when your opponent sets up a queen to take out your sad little knight, you unexpectedly clobber the queen with a pawn. It's the other guy's fault for being thick enough to believe you.

    Do you understand my metaphor? This thread is the board, and the posts on it are the pieces. They are what is binding, what cannot be taken back. PMs are just drawings on a bit of paper, advice thrown into the air. They are basically just a private form of communication, no different to if I had instead been sending EmoHaruno emails, or talking on a phone, or using AIM, or whatever. They are not part of the game - I can say whatever I like on them (provided it stays friendly), and get away scot free, because they are not part of the game. They do not count. They might as well never have exisited for all the amount that they bind you to your word (not at all). If I had posted that pic on the thread, that might have been a different story. But by using pms, I conveniently found a place where I could make plans that would never be followed.

    Another chess metaphor. If I were to move a piece into a certain position, and my opponent demanded to know what I was planning to do with the piece, and I told him/her something that I might do with that piece, and then did something entirely different, it would not be against the rules. Once again, the fault lies with the bamboozled opponent for not taking everything they recieved that wasn't binding with a pinch of salt.

    As for Isabel's post:

    It's fairly simple: Isabel thought that I must have known EmoHaruno was going to betray me because I found out that she had betrayed my well-demolishing move to you (and here we have another perfect example - I spent a long time exchanging pms with EmoHaruno planning how to destroy those wells, but after I realised that you had found out about the plan, I simply abandoned it, and did something else. I could do this because it was just in the planning stages - ideas sent back and forth via pm - meaningless), but I assumed that anyone in their right mind would wait until after the Comet had passed before openly betraying me. So I knew EmoHaruno would eventually betray me (just as I know that you and Isabel will eventually betray eachother, etc, etc), but I had no idea that it would be happening during that move, as Isabel suggested. So this was an example of miscommunication, not prevarication.

    I hope that tha clears things up.

    In summary:

    - Nothing sent over a pm can be held to account (I am more than willing to keep debating this point if you aren't yet convinced).

    And:

    - I wasn't lying to Isabel, rather, Isabel misinterpreted what I was saying.

    Glad we could get that sorted out

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    EarthbendingRox

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    Ok, I do not know anything about this game/RPG whatever it is, but I'm pretty sure this game is supposed to be fun, and by the looks of the last few posts, it doesn't look like any of you are having fun. So I suggest pulling it together, since the mods can easily delete this for being off topic (which it looks like it is, again, I don't know anything about this game)
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    Dafoose

    [2700]Sep 14, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    Dafoose wrote:
    Fine.
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I have a question, and don't lie, Axrendale, just because it'll get you out of this mess. I agree with Axrendale, as much as it may hurt me, but he never actually confirmed that he was going to attack. So this question WON'T COUNT. For now, it's up to libraman to decide whether it should be allowed. Anyway... Were you honestly going to attack the ANT? I thought you were onto EmoHaruno and were going to attack me, and that's why I upped my defenses. No matter WHAT Axrendale says to this, it doesn't matter. So don't use this against him. I'm honestly curious and I don't want you all to ruin my fun

    Actually, to tell you the truth, I was never going to attack Chameleon Bay. All my subtle hints that it was about to come under attack were actually just a ruse to get you to tie up as many troops as possible.

    And I was never going to attack any of the Air Temples. That was just a fancy pic I sent to EmoHaruno. Had things gone according to plan, EmoHaruno would have attacked the temples, expecting me to follow up by posting that I lent troops to aid her (as happened at the last battle of Chameleon Bay). Instead, I would have thumbed my nose at her and ended the alliance. Had things not gone according to plan, EmoHaruno might have ended the alliance and attacked me outright, or simply refused to attack the Temples.

    Instead of going according or not according to plan, however, EmoHaruno presumed to simply order my troops into battle. Which I quite frankly will not stand for.

    And then....
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    What do you mean? I had no idea that EmoHaruno was going to betray me, if that's what you are referring to.

    All I'm going to say is: lies. You knew because you recognized the fact that Dafoose had an insight on your plan before you posted it.

    In bold, are these "fancy Pics" your sad pathetic excuse for making an unofficial move? so that you could retrace your steps if things didn't work to plan?

    Like I said, that's cheating. Once you make a decision, that's it. You can't retrace your steps.

    It's like chess. You can't move your peices after you lift your hand.

    Okay, let's deal with these, and hopefully end this argument once and for all.

    You cannot take back a move in chess. That is against the rules. But it is not against the rules to take a piece of paper, draw out a chess board, and then make a picture of a move that you might make, and wave it around in the air, showing everyone your move. There is no rule that says you cannot tell the other player what you are going to do, and then change your mind and do something else entirely. There is no rule that says you cannot say "I will move my knight to B3 next move:, and when your opponent sets up a queen to take out your sad little knight, you unexpectedly clobber the queen with a pawn. It's the other guy's fault for being thick enough to believe you.

    Do you understand my metaphor? This thread is the board, and the posts on it are the pieces. They are what is binding, what cannot be taken back. PMs are just drawings on a bit of paper, advice thrown into the air. They are basically just a private form of communication, no different to if I had instead been sending EmoHaruno emails, or talking on a phone, or using AIM, or whatever. They are not part of the game - I can say whatever I like on them (provided it stays friendly), and get away scot free, because they are not part of the game. They do not count. They might as well never have exisited for all the amount that they bind you to your word (not at all). If I had posted that pic on the thread, that might have been a different story. But by using pms, I conveniently found a place where I could make plans that would never be followed.

    Another chess metaphor. If I were to move a piece into a certain position, and my opponent demanded to know what I was planning to do with the piece, and I told him/her something that I might do with that piece, and then did something entirely different, it would not be against the rules. Once again, the fault lies with the bamboozled opponent for not taking everything they recieved that wasn't binding with a pinch of salt.

    As for Isabel's post:

    It's fairly simple: Isabel thought that I must have known EmoHaruno was going to betray me because I found out that she had betrayed my well-demolishing move to you (and here we have another perfect example - I spent a long time exchanging pms with EmoHaruno planning how to destroy those wells, but after I realised that you had found out about the plan, I simply abandoned it, and did something else. I could do this because it was just in the planning stages - ideas sent back and forth via pm - meaningless), but I assumed that anyone in their right mind would wait until after the Comet had passed before openly betraying me. So I knew EmoHaruno would eventually betray me (just as I know that you and Isabel will eventually betray eachother, etc, etc), but I had no idea that it would be happening during that move, as Isabel suggested. So this was an example of miscommunication, not prevarication.

    I hope that tha clears things up.

    In summary:

    - Nothing sent over a pm can be held to account (I am more than willing to keep debating this point if you aren't yet convinced).

    And:

    - I wasn't lying to Isabel, rather, Isabel misinterpreted what I was saying.

    Glad we could get that sorted out

    Ah haaa...no.

    "- Nothing sent over a pm can be held to account (I am more than willing to keep debating this point if you aren't yet convinced).

    And:

    - I wasn't lying to Isabel, rather, Isabel misinterpreted what I was saying."

    The fact you think isabel misinterprets things is YOUR problem, not mine.

    ANd things sent over pm Can be held accountable if you create a system/situation using it.

    If you don't maintain a certain level of trust on this forum, there is no way in hell you can play this game correctly.
    A lot of the moves and motives and other things you said and did contradict each other on this forum. It wasn't just the pm messages.
    You forget the fact that the only way we CAN communicate is through peices of paper. So when you move, you can MOVE another direction unless you make it clear to a third party member. Did you ever say that you WEREN'T going to attack until now? Why should we believe you?

    Here's your pattern of movement, chess wise:

    You pm libraman and ask if you can merge teams. *suspicious don't you think?*

    You pm libraman and tell him to switch the order JUST so you can go before me. Smoooth move. But it's not smooth enough. You use my quotes or refresh his memory of the "order of turn" switching. Awfully convenient in your case.

    Then, emoharuno betrays you, and you say "Lies!! LIES!!!!" when in reality, everyone here knows you're lying.

    Then you say, "I never knew emoharuno was going to betray me." This supports the fact that you did and did not send troops with emoharuno. When you say this, then it means you have no reason to not send troops with emoharuno. And don't tell me you were going to betray her anyways, because then you go on to say, "oh, I was going to betray her AFTERWARDS." So that's what you tell everyone.

    Then, you go on to confess that you did know emoharuno was going to betray you, but not until AFTER the eclipse.

    After Emoharuno posts, you argue with her, and she talks about these, "secret PM messages" what is in the messages is irrelevant. But unfortunately for you, Emoharuno did NOTHING WRONG.

    She acted according to what YOU told HER. *dun dun dun, Dramatic music plays*

    So after that, you try to make emoharuno look like a fool, which is disgusting.

    You're both right, but you're responsible for this because you acted first by sending these messages. Your "Troops" are insignificant, because emoharuno was going to attack you and harm you just the same. So you're not getting out of the elclipse/full moon turn anyways. Emoharuno deals damage. end. Whether or not your troops are with her.

    Isabel also said, "don't use whatever he says against axrendale". I'm using what you DIDN'T say. So if you had told the truth, you seriously wouldn't be arguing with me. I would've shut my mouth. But you didn't, therefore, I used what you didn't say against you, and ignored everything you said in response.

    Also, there are better ways

    But once emoharuno betrays you You said that you had no idea that emoharuno was going to betray you.

    Which supports your old move.
    GTG, brb.
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