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    metalcurtainrod

    [21]Sep 16, 2006
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    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Avatar is meant for kids and children in adult???s bodies. If you classify as the latter: live with it, its not wrong??? just embarrassing.


    Avatar is undoubtably for kids, and the reason why I like it as a 17-year-old is because I am essentially a kid inside. I am able to get immersed in the show's world, which is greater and more fantastic that my own, and enjoy the experience of going on Ang's adventures.

    Avatar is unlike many of the shows shown and previously shown on Nick, in the sense that the eyes of many adults immeadiately gloss over when they see it. When my parents saw me watching rugrats as a kid, they didn't hesitate to sit down with me and watch it (This is good old rugrats, pre-dill, before they were dumbed down). Today, when my parents see my little brother watching Avatar, there reaction is the same to that of a video game, they literally cannot comprehend it. It is unlike anything they have ever seen, and they want nothing to do with it. They could bear traditional sit-com-like format of rugrats, but they just lack the ability to get into Avatar the way a child can.

    Evidence that the writers of Avatar do not try to accomidate the parent/adult as described above is the lack of mature refereces. Rugrats is the perfect example of a show intended for kids, with hidden goodies for adults.

    Example 1: Stu is showing home movies, and the grandpa won't stop complaining about how boring they are. Midway through the first movie, he picks up a phone and says "Yes, Dr. Kevorkian." I doubt that very many viewers in the target audience are familiar with Dr. Kevorkian, who allegedly assisted many to commit suicide.

    Example 2: Stu is talking about how he'll never finish his latest and greatest invention, and Dee Dee asserts, "Did Motzart ever finish his requiem?" Same story as above, only one in a million eight-year-olds would have any idea what she was talking about.

    These just go to shows that the writers of Rugrats were aware of a small minority of mature viewers(namely parents). There is no special effort made to accomedate the "mature" viewers of avatar. Everyone who likes avatar likes it for the same reasons (forget about the really little kids who can't even follow the plot and just like the fights and colors).

    Another way in which avatar fails to appeal to adults is with it's lack of overarching themes and human truths (I haven't been watching for very long, so I may be wrong. Please tell me if you have found deeper meaning in the show). Examples of such "kids" pieces with such real messages include "The Lion King," a personal favorite which stresses the importance of family, duty and responsibility insisting that life comes down to finding and fufilling your role in the world, or "in the circle of life" if you must. Another such work is "Star Wars," which confirms the things that every living person wants to believe in the deepest part of their heart, good will ultimatly prevail over evil despite how dire things may seem, and that despite living a normal and seemingly purposless existance, they have something so uniquely special about them that will help them save the world, and off this rock that they call Tatooine. I know that I can't expect a TV series to compare with some of the greatest movies of all time, I'm just saying that Avatar lacks a feature that made the greatest pieces of Kid's entertainment also pieces of adult entertainment.

    In short, Avatar appeals to some adults, but it lacks the specifically adult jokes of Rugrats, and the deep food for thought of "the Lion King" and "Star Wars." It offers nothing to the majority of the adult population.

    Avatar is for kids, and adults who have retained the ability to get lost in a magical world far removed from there own, an ability I hope to never lose. Also, I couldn't find a good place to mention this, but as far as mature nick shows go, I found the episode of "As Told by Ginger," where she is suspected of being suicidal to be incredibly emotionaly mature, and got the feeling that I wouldn't be able to understand it (the emotion, not the plot) is I were just a few years younger. This is hard proof that nick does take action to specifically accomedatee the teen demographic.

    Final thought: pure speculation: most of the "adults" here are teens like myself, right? Though I can appreciate Avatar as a full-grown-person, I have trouble seeing any real adult (even parents or a 25 year old version of myself) watching Avatar.

    Oh yea, please email me at javierl89@yahoo.com. To talk about Avatar if nothing else. For fear of ostricism, I don't talk about Avatar with any of my friends, and would really like to have someone to talk about it (among other things) with.


    I'm not really sure what your trying to say in the 7th paragraph, but from what I understand, you are saying avatar doesn't have a theme. If thats what you're saying, then you're wrong. The overall theme of avatar is hope, something they talk about constantly throughout the show. Also, different episodes have different themes. Like the theme of the Storm, I believe, is that everything happens for a reason, and Zuko Alone, would probably be to never give up without a fight, and/or to never forget who you are.
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    UGamer08

    [22]Sep 16, 2006
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    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Avatar is meant for kids and children in adult???s bodies. If you classify as the latter: live with it, its not wrong??? just embarrassing.
    Avatar is undoubtably for kids, and the reason why I like it as a 17-year-old is because I am essentially a kid inside. I am able to get immersed in the show's world, which is greater and more fantastic that my own, and enjoy the experience of going on Ang's adventures. Avatar is unlike many of the shows shown and previously shown on Nick, in the sense that the eyes of many adults immeadiately gloss over when they see it. When my parents saw me watching rugrats as a kid, they didn't hesitate to sit down with me and watch it (This is good old rugrats, pre-dill, before they were dumbed down). Today, when my parents see my little brother watching Avatar, there reaction is the same to that of a video game, they literally cannot comprehend it. It is unlike anything they have ever seen, and they want nothing to do with it. They could bear traditional sit-com-like format of rugrats, but they just lack the ability to get into Avatar the way a child can. Evidence that the writers of Avatar do not try to accomidate the parent/adult as described above is the lack of mature refereces. Rugrats is the perfect example of a show intended for kids, with hidden goodies for adults. Example 1: Stu is showing home movies, and the grandpa won't stop complaining about how boring they are. Midway through the first movie, he picks up a phone and says "Yes, Dr. Kevorkian." I doubt that very many viewers in the target audience are familiar with Dr. Kevorkian, who allegedly assisted many to commit suicide. Example 2: Stu is talking about how he'll never finish his latest and greatest invention, and Dee Dee asserts, "Did Motzart ever finish his requiem?" Same story as above, only one in a million eight-year-olds would have any idea what she was talking about. These just go to shows that the writers of Rugrats were aware of a small minority of mature viewers(namely parents). There is no special effort made to accomedate the "mature" viewers of avatar. Everyone who likes avatar likes it for the same reasons (forget about the really little kids who can't even follow the plot and just like the fights and colors). Another way in which avatar fails to appeal to adults is with it's lack of overarching themes and human truths (I haven't been watching for very long, so I may be wrong. Please tell me if you have found deeper meaning in the show). Examples of such "kids" pieces with such real messages include "The Lion King," a personal favorite which stresses the importance of family, duty and responsibility insisting that life comes down to finding and fufilling your role in the world, or "in the circle of life" if you must. Another such work is "Star Wars," which confirms the things that every living person wants to believe in the deepest part of their heart, good will ultimatly prevail over evil despite how dire things may seem, and that despite living a normal and seemingly purposless existance, they have something so uniquely special about them that will help them save the world, and off this rock that they call Tatooine. I know that I can't expect a TV series to compare with some of the greatest movies of all time, I'm just saying that Avatar lacks a feature that made the greatest pieces of Kid's entertainment also pieces of adult entertainment. In short, Avatar appeals to some adults, but it lacks the specifically adult jokes of Rugrats, and the deep food for thought of "the Lion King" and "Star Wars." It offers nothing to the majority of the adult population. Avatar is for kids, and adults who have retained the ability to get lost in a magical world far removed from there own, an ability I hope to never lose. Also, I couldn't find a good place to mention this, but as far as mature nick shows go, I found the episode of "As Told by Ginger," where she is suspected of being suicidal to be incredibly emotionaly mature, and got the feeling that I wouldn't be able to understand it (the emotion, not the plot) is I were just a few years younger. This is hard proof that nick does take action to specifically accomedatee the teen demographic. Final thought: pure speculation: most of the "adults" here are teens like myself, right? Though I can appreciate Avatar as a full-grown-person, I have trouble seeing any real adult (even parents or a 25 year old version of myself) watching Avatar. Oh yea, please email me at javierl89@yahoo.com. To talk about Avatar if nothing else. For fear of ostricism, I don't talk about Avatar with any of my friends, and would really like to have someone to talk about it (among other things) with.

    Wow that's some good points. A lot of cartoons used to do that (Rocko Modern Life- Chokey chicken restaurant-FCC-chewey chicken restaraunt ). I've actually gotten pretty tired of kids cartoons that feel the need to constantly layer every episode with random, unneccesart pop culture references that rarely ever fit into the plot. We'll probably never see stuff like that on Avatar since it does take place in the past and it really doesn't need em. You really find it hard hard seeing adults watching Avatar? Huh, I mean something like DBZ or teen titans yeah but??Avatar???I mean I have seen??one buy the DVDs for herself.??Well??like I??said??before, matter of??opinion. ??Hold on let me check.....crap??I you beat me. ??

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    Hoshie26

    [23]Sep 16, 2006
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    Daiken wrote:
    Hey, I'm new here so I don't know if this has been discussed already (probably) but whatever. I just started watching Avatar a month ago and finally was able to catch up with the entire series through online sources. I have to say, I'm in love with this show now. I'd love to recommend it to friends but a lot non cartoon watchers are immediately turned off by the rating thinking it's just a kids show.

    Although from some episodes it may seem like a kids show, but as an adult you come to realize a lot of the serious tones and subtle references in the show a lot of kids probably wouldn't be able to understand or pick up on. For example in the beginning, they showed Aang's teacher's skeleton which from my experience is pretty strange for a kid's show. All the character development like with Zukko, his past, and trying to find his own way, is also not common. Then you notice little things while watching the show, like in the most recent episodes. When Suki wanted to kiss Sakka, Sakka couldn't because he felt guilty. From the camera shot you could tell why, because the moon was there and he felt like he was betraying Yuai (sp?).

    What do you all think? I think Avatar is a great show suitable for all ages but probably liked most by older fans.


    What do you mean by kids?!?I get it but what do you mean by kids?!?That was a uneeded comment.
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    Hoshie26

    [24]Sep 16, 2006
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    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Avatar is meant for kids and children in adult???s bodies. If you classify as the latter: live with it, its not wrong??? just embarrassing.


    Avatar is undoubtably for kids, and the reason why I like it as a 17-year-old is because I am essentially a kid inside. I am able to get immersed in the show's world, which is greater and more fantastic that my own, and enjoy the experience of going on Ang's adventures.

    Avatar is unlike many of the shows shown and previously shown on Nick, in the sense that the eyes of many adults immeadiately gloss over when they see it. When my parents saw me watching rugrats as a kid, they didn't hesitate to sit down with me and watch it (This is good old rugrats, pre-dill, before they were dumbed down). Today, when my parents see my little brother watching Avatar, there reaction is the same to that of a video game, they literally cannot comprehend it. It is unlike anything they have ever seen, and they want nothing to do with it. They could bear traditional sit-com-like format of rugrats, but they just lack the ability to get into Avatar the way a child can.

    Evidence that the writers of Avatar do not try to accomidate the parent/adult as described above is the lack of mature refereces. Rugrats is the perfect example of a show intended for kids, with hidden goodies for adults.

    Example 1: Stu is showing home movies, and the grandpa won't stop complaining about how boring they are. Midway through the first movie, he picks up a phone and says "Yes, Dr. Kevorkian." I doubt that very many viewers in the target audience are familiar with Dr. Kevorkian, who allegedly assisted many to commit suicide.

    Example 2: Stu is talking about how he'll never finish his latest and greatest invention, and Dee Dee asserts, "Did Motzart ever finish his requiem?" Same story as above, only one in a million eight-year-olds would have any idea what she was talking about.

    These just go to shows that the writers of Rugrats were aware of a small minority of mature viewers(namely parents). There is no special effort made to accomedate the "mature" viewers of avatar. Everyone who likes avatar likes it for the same reasons (forget about the really little kids who can't even follow the plot and just like the fights and colors).

    Another way in which avatar fails to appeal to adults is with it's lack of overarching themes and human truths (I haven't been watching for very long, so I may be wrong. Please tell me if you have found deeper meaning in the show). Examples of such "kids" pieces with such real messages include "The Lion King," a personal favorite which stresses the importance of family, duty and responsibility insisting that life comes down to finding and fufilling your role in the world, or "in the circle of life" if you must. Another such work is "Star Wars," which confirms the things that every living person wants to believe in the deepest part of their heart, good will ultimatly prevail over evil despite how dire things may seem, and that despite living a normal and seemingly purposless existance, they have something so uniquely special about them that will help them save the world, and off this rock that they call Tatooine. I know that I can't expect a TV series to compare with some of the greatest movies of all time, I'm just saying that Avatar lacks a feature that made the greatest pieces of Kid's entertainment also pieces of adult entertainment.

    In short, Avatar appeals to some adults, but it lacks the specifically adult jokes of Rugrats, and the deep food for thought of "the Lion King" and "Star Wars." It offers nothing to the majority of the adult population.

    Avatar is for kids, and adults who have retained the ability to get lost in a magical world far removed from there own, an ability I hope to never lose. Also, I couldn't find a good place to mention this, but as far as mature nick shows go, I found the episode of "As Told by Ginger," where she is suspected of being suicidal to be incredibly emotionaly mature, and got the feeling that I wouldn't be able to understand it (the emotion, not the plot) is I were just a few years younger. This is hard proof that nick does take action to specifically accomedatee the teen demographic.

    Final thought: pure speculation: most of the "adults" here are teens like myself, right? Though I can appreciate Avatar as a full-grown-person, I have trouble seeing any real adult (even parents or a 25 year old version of myself) watching Avatar.

    Oh yea, please email me at javierl89@yahoo.com. To talk about Avatar if nothing else. For fear of ostricism, I don't talk about Avatar with any of my friends, and would really like to have someone to talk about it (among other things) with.


    I'm not really sure what your trying to say in the 7th paragraph, but from what I understand, you are saying avatar doesn't have a theme. If thats what you're saying, then you're wrong. The overall theme of avatar is hope, something they talk about constantly throughout the show. Also, different episodes have different themes. Like the theme of the Storm, I believe, is that everything happens for a reason, and Zuko Alone, would probably be to never give up without a fight, and/or to never forget who you are.


    It so has a theme!
    And people dieing isnt mature?!?
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    qweasdzse

    [25]Sep 16, 2006
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    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Avatar is meant for kids and children in adult???s bodies. If you classify as the latter: live with it, its not wrong??? just embarrassing.
    Avatar is undoubtably for kids, and the reason why I like it as a 17-year-old is because I am essentially a kid inside. I am able to get immersed in the show's world, which is greater and more fantastic that my own, and enjoy the experience of going on Ang's adventures. Avatar is unlike many of the shows shown and previously shown on Nick, in the sense that the eyes of many adults immeadiately gloss over when they see it. When my parents saw me watching rugrats as a kid, they didn't hesitate to sit down with me and watch it (This is good old rugrats, pre-dill, before they were dumbed down). Today, when my parents see my little brother watching Avatar, there reaction is the same to that of a video game, they literally cannot comprehend it. It is unlike anything they have ever seen, and they want nothing to do with it. They could bear traditional sit-com-like format of rugrats, but they just lack the ability to get into Avatar the way a child can. Evidence that the writers of Avatar do not try to accomidate the parent/adult as described above is the lack of mature refereces. Rugrats is the perfect example of a show intended for kids, with hidden goodies for adults. Example 1: Stu is showing home movies, and the grandpa won't stop complaining about how boring they are. Midway through the first movie, he picks up a phone and says "Yes, Dr. Kevorkian." I doubt that very many viewers in the target audience are familiar with Dr. Kevorkian, who allegedly assisted many to commit suicide. Example 2: Stu is talking about how he'll never finish his latest and greatest invention, and Dee Dee asserts, "Did Motzart ever finish his requiem?" Same story as above, only one in a million eight-year-olds would have any idea what she was talking about. These just go to shows that the writers of Rugrats were aware of a small minority of mature viewers(namely parents). There is no special effort made to accomedate the "mature" viewers of avatar. Everyone who likes avatar likes it for the same reasons (forget about the really little kids who can't even follow the plot and just like the fights and colors). Another way in which avatar fails to appeal to adults is with it's lack of overarching themes and human truths (I haven't been watching for very long, so I may be wrong. Please tell me if you have found deeper meaning in the show). Examples of such "kids" pieces with such real messages include "The Lion King," a personal favorite which stresses the importance of family, duty and responsibility insisting that life comes down to finding and fufilling your role in the world, or "in the circle of life" if you must. Another such work is "Star Wars," which confirms the things that every living person wants to believe in the deepest part of their heart, good will ultimatly prevail over evil despite how dire things may seem, and that despite living a normal and seemingly purposless existance, they have something so uniquely special about them that will help them save the world, and off this rock that they call Tatooine. I know that I can't expect a TV series to compare with some of the greatest movies of all time, I'm just saying that Avatar lacks a feature that made the greatest pieces of Kid's entertainment also pieces of adult entertainment. In short, Avatar appeals to some adults, but it lacks the specifically adult jokes of Rugrats, and the deep food for thought of "the Lion King" and "Star Wars." It offers nothing to the majority of the adult population. Avatar is for kids, and adults who have retained the ability to get lost in a magical world far removed from there own, an ability I hope to never lose. Also, I couldn't find a good place to mention this, but as far as mature nick shows go, I found the episode of "As Told by Ginger," where she is suspected of being suicidal to be incredibly emotionaly mature, and got the feeling that I wouldn't be able to understand it (the emotion, not the plot) is I were just a few years younger. This is hard proof that nick does take action to specifically accomedatee the teen demographic. Final thought: pure speculation: most of the "adults" here are teens like myself, right? Though I can appreciate Avatar as a full-grown-person, I have trouble seeing any real adult (even parents or a 25 year old version of myself) watching Avatar. Oh yea, please email me at javierl89@yahoo.com. To talk about Avatar if nothing else. For fear of ostricism, I don't talk about Avatar with any of my friends, and would really like to have someone to talk about it (among other things) with.

    That was a very well thought out first post but I dissagree with one point about the moral themes. Avatar has a few moral themes in fact some off these are forcibly rubbed in your face. These themes involve things like family, war,??disabilities, relationships and femenism they aren't overly mature or depressing like FMA but they are there. and ugamer what do you have against porn. Porn's never hurt anyone.

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    Hey comon guys, he clearly stated that he hasn't been watching it for that long. Also I really hope someone takes a survey or something so we can get some new accurate statistics regarding the viewership of the show. I have to admit that I??think most of the stuff here is based on assumption.

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    Hoshie26

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    qweasdzse wrote:

    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Avatar is meant for kids and children in adult???s bodies. If you classify as the latter: live with it, its not wrong??? just embarrassing.
    Avatar is undoubtably for kids, and the reason why I like it as a 17-year-old is because I am essentially a kid inside. I am able to get immersed in the show's world, which is greater and more fantastic that my own, and enjoy the experience of going on Ang's adventures. Avatar is unlike many of the shows shown and previously shown on Nick, in the sense that the eyes of many adults immeadiately gloss over when they see it. When my parents saw me watching rugrats as a kid, they didn't hesitate to sit down with me and watch it (This is good old rugrats, pre-dill, before they were dumbed down). Today, when my parents see my little brother watching Avatar, there reaction is the same to that of a video game, they literally cannot comprehend it. It is unlike anything they have ever seen, and they want nothing to do with it. They could bear traditional sit-com-like format of rugrats, but they just lack the ability to get into Avatar the way a child can. Evidence that the writers of Avatar do not try to accomidate the parent/adult as described above is the lack of mature refereces. Rugrats is the perfect example of a show intended for kids, with hidden goodies for adults. Example 1: Stu is showing home movies, and the grandpa won't stop complaining about how boring they are. Midway through the first movie, he picks up a phone and says "Yes, Dr. Kevorkian." I doubt that very many viewers in the target audience are familiar with Dr. Kevorkian, who allegedly assisted many to commit suicide. Example 2: Stu is talking about how he'll never finish his latest and greatest invention, and Dee Dee asserts, "Did Motzart ever finish his requiem?" Same story as above, only one in a million eight-year-olds would have any idea what she was talking about. These just go to shows that the writers of Rugrats were aware of a small minority of mature viewers(namely parents). There is no special effort made to accomedate the "mature" viewers of avatar. Everyone who likes avatar likes it for the same reasons (forget about the really little kids who can't even follow the plot and just like the fights and colors). Another way in which avatar fails to appeal to adults is with it's lack of overarching themes and human truths (I haven't been watching for very long, so I may be wrong. Please tell me if you have found deeper meaning in the show). Examples of such "kids" pieces with such real messages include "The Lion King," a personal favorite which stresses the importance of family, duty and responsibility insisting that life comes down to finding and fufilling your role in the world, or "in the circle of life" if you must. Another such work is "Star Wars," which confirms the things that every living person wants to believe in the deepest part of their heart, good will ultimatly prevail over evil despite how dire things may seem, and that despite living a normal and seemingly purposless existance, they have something so uniquely special about them that will help them save the world, and off this rock that they call Tatooine. I know that I can't expect a TV series to compare with some of the greatest movies of all time, I'm just saying that Avatar lacks a feature that made the greatest pieces of Kid's entertainment also pieces of adult entertainment. In short, Avatar appeals to some adults, but it lacks the specifically adult jokes of Rugrats, and the deep food for thought of "the Lion King" and "Star Wars." It offers nothing to the majority of the adult population. Avatar is for kids, and adults who have retained the ability to get lost in a magical world far removed from there own, an ability I hope to never lose. Also, I couldn't find a good place to mention this, but as far as mature nick shows go, I found the episode of "As Told by Ginger," where she is suspected of being suicidal to be incredibly emotionaly mature, and got the feeling that I wouldn't be able to understand it (the emotion, not the plot) is I were just a few years younger. This is hard proof that nick does take action to specifically accomedatee the teen demographic. Final thought: pure speculation: most of the "adults" here are teens like myself, right? Though I can appreciate Avatar as a full-grown-person, I have trouble seeing any real adult (even parents or a 25 year old version of myself) watching Avatar. Oh yea, please email me at javierl89@yahoo.com. To talk about Avatar if nothing else. For fear of ostricism, I don't talk about Avatar with any of my friends, and would really like to have someone to talk about it (among other things) with.

    That was a very well thought out first post but I dissagree with one point about the moral themes. Avatar has a few moral themes in fact some off these are forcibly rubbed in your face. These themes involve things like family, war,??disabilities, relationships and femenism they aren't overly mature or depressing like FMA but they are there. and ugamer what do you have against porn. Porn's never hurt anyone.



    How about that part in THE SWAMP?With the enlightment guy?
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    Javier_89

    [28]Sep 16, 2006
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    I'm not claiming to be an expert on the show or the people who watch it.?? I've only seen it a few times, and I liked it enough to search the internert to see what other people thought of it.?? Everything I said is just speculation.
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    UGamer08

    [29]Sep 16, 2006
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    qweasdzse wrote:

    That was a very well thought out first post but I dissagree with one point about the moral themes. Avatar has a few moral themes in fact some off these are forcibly rubbed in your face. These themes involve things like family, war,??disabilities, relationships and femenism they aren't overly mature or depressing like FMA but they are there. and ugamer what do you have against porn. Porn's never hurt anyone.

    Hey man its all good if you're into that stuff. I just called it sh*t, never neccessarily said whether it was good??or bad. Yep, there's a difference. Comtemporary society, what are ya gonna do?

    Oh and I mentioned that banyan tree guy already.

    Edited on 09/16/2006 6:54pm
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    metalcurtainrod

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    Javier_89 wrote:
    I'm not claiming to be an expert on the show or the people who watch it.?? I've only seen it a few times, and I liked it enough to search the internert to see what other people thought of it.?? Everything I said is just speculation.


    We know, we were just saying you were mistaken, because you were. Avatar does have themes. Try watching more episodes, and you'll see them.
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    UGamer08

    [31]Sep 16, 2006
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    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    Javier_89 wrote:
    I'm not claiming to be an expert on the show or the people who watch it.?? I've only seen it a few times, and I liked it enough to search the internert to see what other people thought of it.?? Everything I said is just speculation.
    We know, we were just saying you were mistaken, because you were. Avatar does have themes. Try watching more episodes, and you'll see them.

    Basically what I said.

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    Javier_89

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    UGamer08 wrote:

    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    Javier_89 wrote:
    I'm not claiming to be an expert on the show or the people who watch it. I've only seen it a few times, and I liked it enough to search the internert to see what other people thought of it. Everything I said is just speculation.
    We know, we were just saying you were mistaken, because you were. Avatar does have themes. Try watching more episodes, and you'll see them.

    Basically what I said.



    yea
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    dumbTVnut

    [33]Sep 16, 2006
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    Javier_89, I meant that your comments were so well written and mindful that it turned me on, I have something I want to show you... And no I'm not a teenager, but I do have one locked up in my basement: "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again" As for themes, why not mention the most blatant of them all, A ORIENTAL theme: specifically Chinese culture, spirituality and mandarin language. Its doing us a favor: it is preparing for the day when we will have to deal with china as the world???s leading superpower!
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    UGamer08

    [34]Sep 16, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Javier_89, I meant that your comments were so well written and mindful that it turned me on, I have something I want to show you... And no I'm not a teenager, but I do have one locked up in my basement: "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again" As for themes, why not mention the most blatant of them all, A ORIENTAL theme: specifically Chinese culture, spirituality and mandarin language. Its doing us a favor: it is preparing for the day when we will have to deal with china as the world???s leading superpower!

    See there, that's exactly what I meant, exactly what I was referring to. What the hell is Billy doing quoting from the Silent of the Lambs while reminiscing of his first encounter with Grim???It didn't??even relate to the scene he was in,??what purpose...??sorry that thing really stuck with me. Hold on. Oh my God. U think China should rule the world too? ??No freakin way.

    Edited on 09/16/2006 7:16pm
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    Javier_89

    [35]Sep 16, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Javier_89, I meant that your comments were so well written and mindful that it turned me on, I have something I want to show you... And no I'm not a teenager, but I do have one locked up in my basement: "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again" As for themes, why not mention the most blatant of them all, A ORIENTAL theme: specifically Chinese culture, spirituality and mandarin language. Its doing us a favor: it is preparing for the day when we will have to deal with china as the world???s leading superpower!


    Cool. I thought that you were so strongly opposed to what I was saying that you didn't want to welcome me, and the the @#$% was not of the good variety. In all fairness, I can only talk about this because I have a brother about my same age, and the only thing that we ever really talk about is what makes movies and TV shows entertaining (He's studying film in college). What I posted is just Avatar integrated into the highlights of our conversations from the past month. The things I said weren't just concieved and written within ten minutes of finding this forum.

    So if that's what you meant. Thanx
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    UGamer08

    [36]Sep 16, 2006
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    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Javier_89, I meant that your comments were so well written and mindful that it turned me on, I have something I want to show you... And no I'm not a teenager, but I do have one locked up in my basement: "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again" As for themes, why not mention the most blatant of them all, A ORIENTAL theme: specifically Chinese culture, spirituality and mandarin language. Its doing us a favor: it is preparing for the day when we will have to deal with china as the world???s leading superpower!
    Cool. I thought that you were so strongly opposed to what I was saying that you didn't want to welcome me, and the the @#$% was not of the good variety. In all fairness, I can only talk about this because I have a brother about my same age, and the only thing that we ever really talk about is what makes movies and TV shows entertaining (He's studying film in college). What I posted is just Avatar integrated into the highlights of our conversations from the past month. The things I said weren't just concieved and written within ten minutes of finding this forum. So if that's what you meant. Thanx

    Welcome? Man as long as you can post stuff here the f with everyone else. Anyhoo yeah I was wondering about that post. Guess u didn't win after all. ...Yeah.

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    Javier_89

    [37]Sep 16, 2006
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    UGamer08 wrote:

    Javier_89 wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    Javier_89, I meant that your comments were so well written and mindful that it turned me on, I have something I want to show you... And no I'm not a teenager, but I do have one locked up in my basement: "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again" As for themes, why not mention the most blatant of them all, A ORIENTAL theme: specifically Chinese culture, spirituality and mandarin language. Its doing us a favor: it is preparing for the day when we will have to deal with china as the world???s leading superpower!
    Cool. I thought that you were so strongly opposed to what I was saying that you didn't want to welcome me, and the the @#$% was not of the good variety. In all fairness, I can only talk about this because I have a brother about my same age, and the only thing that we ever really talk about is what makes movies and TV shows entertaining (He's studying film in college). What I posted is just Avatar integrated into the highlights of our conversations from the past month. The things I said weren't just concieved and written within ten minutes of finding this forum. So if that's what you meant. Thanx

    Welcome? Man as long as you can post stuff here the f with everyone else. Anyhoo yeah I was wondering about that post. Guess u didn't win after all. ...Yeah.



    I beg to differ. Knowledge is knowledge no matter how you attain it. I'm sure you did some thinking/talking/reading before making your trophy post as well.

    What I don't get is why this is a contest to see who can have the biggest and most impressive post. I was really just wanted to say why I like Avatar and what I think about its attended audience, and see what people thought off my ideas. Plus, if there were a contest, I would mos def win
    Edited on 09/16/2006 7:27pm
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    kit220

    [38]Sep 16, 2006
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    The??only reason?? I started watching Avatar was because I was watching every other cartoon on Nick with my kids.?? Turns out??my husband and I like Avatar way more than our kids do.?? I think its a show ment for kids but can reach so many other age levels.?? Its not childish or to incredibly inmature, its just perfect.
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    NoNameLetdown

    [39]Sep 16, 2006
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    I think its somewhat like Arthur... except in a different extreme

    Its a kids show, yet it has elements that are at a deeper level that teens or adults can understand. So it works for pretty much all ages.
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    dumbTVnut

    [40]Sep 16, 2006
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    UGamer08, your right we should learn mandarin, it is not like its hard, oooh wait I???m thinking of Esperanto.

    Javier_89, your welcome... so were can I stick it? Sorry I can see your really interested into the philosophies of entertainment and media art. my interests (of value) revolve around biochemistry, bioethics and biorobotics, the Bs. So I really can???t appreciate your views to there fullest, but I do respect.
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