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    dark_aquatus

    [1]Nov 10, 2006
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    Jeong Jeong said to Commander Zhao in ''The Deserter'': ''Do not try to fight him, you are no match.'' Admiral Zhao: ''I think i can handle a child.'' Jeong Jeong: ''I have never seen such raw power.''

    Jeong Jeong is a pretty old man who probably taught a lot of people fire bending in his life. He said that he has never seen a person with such raw powers after just teaching Aang one day. Also Aang could already bend fire, and create a pretty large wall of fire around him (although he didnt seem to be able to control it perfectly). Aang is an air bender, and this was his first time he bended fire in his entire life.

    btw, dont forget that this talent would fit in the story prefectly, cause if he's talented in fire??bending he'd probably be able to cast lightning, which he'll need to defeat the fire nation (most of all in his 1v1's against Azula or the Fire Lord).

    so what do you think? is Aang talented in bending fire, or does it just look like it?

    Edited on 11/10/2006 4:45pm
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    tico1125

    [2]Nov 10, 2006
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    You have a very strong point there.?? The interesting thing about it is how he did learn a little on his first lesson.?? The strength that he will have in Firebending is going to come from his airbending too.?? Rememeber that oxygen helps fire burn hotter.?? So Aang definitely has the breathing aspect of firebending down.?? As for his match against Azula and Ozai, I can see him mopping the floor with Azula.?? Ozai though will be a difficult challenge for him.
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    dark_aquatus

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    maybe he wont have to evade fire attacks everytime, once he learned the fire bending basics. like uve seen in ''The Southern Air Temple'', Zuko and Zhao didnt evade a lot of attacks. they just ''broke'' the fire burst, guided it to the ground, or split the burst in twice... if Aang will control these moves, he'll have a lot less to worry about from the FN.

    about the combination of air bending and fire bending, i think ur absolutely right. just like he used his air bending skills on blowing his wistle in BSS, he could also use it to power up his fire attacks, or speed the attacks up with it (like he did in ''The King of Omashu'' with the sharp piece of rock, to ''give the king its key for his launch'').
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    TheGreatAvatar

    [4]Nov 10, 2006
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    dark_aquatus wrote:
    about the combination of air bending and fire bending, i think ur absolutely right. just like he used his air bending skills on blowing his wistle in BSS, he could also use it to power up his fire attacks, or speed the attacks up with it (like he did in ''The King of Omashu'' with the sharp piece of rock, to ''give the king its key for his launch'').


    using that much air would blow out the fire....

    o ye..and its jeong jeong...not yeong yeong
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    dark_aquatus

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    not if he'd keep feeding the fire and keep controlling it. i know its Jeong Jeong... appearently i just made a little misstake while typing his name... ill just edit it, cause i guess some people get annoyed by it... pfff...

    ow btw, i also edited Commander Zhao to Admiral Zhao... no more complaints now i hope?

    Edited on 11/10/2006 4:46pm
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    masterofaeons

    [6]Nov 10, 2006
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    I'd imagine J.J. has never met an avatar before. Raw power? Sounds like your run of the mill Avatar to me. In the end, Aang will be just as brilliant with Fire as he is Air. That's what the Avatar does.
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    dark_aquatus

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    I'd imagine J.J. has never met an avatar before. Raw power? Sounds like your run of the mill Avatar to me. In the end, Aang will be just as brilliant with Fire as he is Air. That's what the Avatar does.
    ur wrong in that... u know what the avatar state makes so special? the ability to use the complete knowledge he got in all his lifes together. this means that he's able to use the talents of air/water/earth/fire based avatars who lived before him. u havent seen ''The Avatar State''? Roku explains him some important things about it, but when he's doing that, u see some previous avatars controlling their BASIC element. u see an avatar in a water tribe outfit controlling huge amounts of water... the same u see with avatars in fire/earth and??air outfits. Aang is able to use his basic element (air) really well, but he also seems to be talented in bending fire, without using the knowledge of previous fire based avatars for it.
    Edited on 11/10/2006 5:03pm
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    masterofaeons

    [8]Nov 10, 2006
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    Whatever. The Avatar is a born natural. Knowing one form makes adapting to learn another one even easier. Not only is the Avatar incredibly powerful, she is literally one with each element. She doesn't exactly LEARN the powers, she relearns them. Remembers them, more than likely.

    When Aang goes into the Avatar State, he completely loses control of himself and gives in to the collective power of the Avatars of the Earth's past. It doesn't mean it's the only time he is the Avatar, for Mike's sake.
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    ardron

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    People icecream rocks! Now then, I would have to agree with Masterofaeons. The avatar is skilled in every element, he is the manifistation of the four elements combined, ( as Iroh says in "Bitter Work").

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    dark_aquatus

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    When Aang goes into the Avatar State, he completely loses control of himself and gives in to the collective power of the Avatars of the Earth's past. It doesn't mean it's the only time he is the Avatar, for Mike's sake.


    he doesnt loses himself completely... think about how Katara calmed him down when he got into the avatar state at the desert.
    the things u guys said about relearning the ''powers'' and about the avatar being the manifestation of the 4 elements is true. all i said, was that each avatar can learn each element, but still has his basic element (the bending nation in which he or she got born in).
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    blazerperry29

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    first of all, i'm part of the iroh-will-teach-aang club. so i was thinking, if katara got mad at aang for being talented at waterbending, imagine how pissed zuko, mr. "grr, i have to struggle at everything" will get when aang outperforms zuko after like 3 minutes of training.
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    dark_aquatus

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    blazerperry29 wrote:
    first of all, i'm part of the iroh-will-teach-aang club. so i was thinking, if katara got mad at aang for being talented at waterbending, imagine how pissed zuko, mr. "grr, i have to struggle at everything" will get when aang outperforms zuko after like 3 minutes of training.


    hehe... thats not really the subject of this topic, but yeah. i think Iroh or Jeong Jeong will teach him. Still, i find it hard to believe that Zuko truely gave up capturing the avatar. i think hes kinda fooling his uncle. if Iroh will teach Aang fire bending eventually, It wont be in the next few episodes...
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    adidaZuko

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    Strength in firebending comes from breath, you breathe air, Aang's an airbender,??lame but it might have something to do with it. I thought that because he was so good at waterbending that maybe he wouldn't do so well firebending because it's water's opposite, but I guess not.
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    SapphireStones

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    adidaZuko wrote:
    Strength in firebending comes from breath, you breathe air, Aang's an airbender,??lame but it might have something to do with it. I thought that because he was so good at waterbending that maybe he wouldn't do so well firebending because it's water's opposite, but I guess not.

    Yeah, but since air's his natural element I could see him being bad at earth, since it's air's opposite. But since he's adapted to water (learning it I mean) I don't think it would really matter if fire was water's opposite, since he's originally an airbender.
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    I'm surpised others haven't noticed it by now but da well...remember in "Bato of the Water Tribe" where Zuko and Aang were fighting on the rooftops? Zuko rushed Aang and was using fire like a whip/sword on Aang, but Aang jumped over Zuko...but a couple seconds later Aang did the samething? well maybe a picture would help better

    ??

    Firebending and Airbending seem very similar(in how a bender can use it)...maybe that's why Aang could so easily pull off powerful moves with Firebending...plus he's the Avatar who's the most powerful bender in the world already...

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    SapphireStones

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    I'm surpised others haven't noticed it by now but da well...remember in "Bato of the Water Tribe" where Zuko and Aang were fighting on the rooftops? Zuko rushed Aang and was using fire like a whip/sword on Aang, but Aang jumped over Zuko...but a couple seconds later Aang did the samething? well maybe a picture would help better

    ??

    Firebending and Airbending seem very similar(in how a bender can use it)...maybe that's why Aang could so easily pull off powerful moves with Firebending...plus he's the Avatar who's the most powerful bender in the world already...

    Nicccccccccccccccccce, I have noticed that but failed to actually have a good example or anything. Sweet!
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    masterofaeons

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    Fire is just superheated air.
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    adidaZuko

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    I'm surpised others haven't noticed it by now but da well...remember in "Bato of the Water Tribe" where Zuko and Aang were fighting on the rooftops? Zuko rushed Aang and was using fire like a whip/sword on Aang, but Aang jumped over Zuko...but a couple seconds later Aang did the samething? well maybe a picture would help better

    ??

    Firebending and Airbending seem very similar(in how a bender can use it)...maybe that's why Aang could so easily pull off powerful moves with Firebending...plus he's the Avatar who's the most powerful bender in the world already...

    He was just imitating the move any bender can do that, I could see it being used with water, and I doubt that there's an actual airbending move that's like that, fire and air aren't too similar. One is defensive, one is offensive; one is gentle, one is aggressive.

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    KilalaRose

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    What gets me is that if firebending comes from the breath, then how did Zuko firebended underwater to get through the ice when he couldn't breathe in "The Seige of the North"
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    Eman5805

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    KilalaRose wrote:
    What gets me is that if firebending comes from the breath, then how did Zuko firebended underwater to get through the ice when he couldn't breathe in "The Seige of the North"

    Hm...good question...maybe cuz he was holding his breathe it still counted

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