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    crazyteen000

    [21]Jul 27, 2008
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    I liked it but it was rushed and I thought there were holes in the storyline.
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    doomed_soul89

    [22]Jul 27, 2008
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    It was good but the problem is it's not really an ending, this is what makes me think they will eventually decide to make a fourth season or something (it won't happen anytime soon every other channel that hosts avatar is going to release the eps 1 week at a time and with the movie and game comming out but i do think they will eventually continue it, in some shape or form) because i honestly think if they intended to end it there they would have sprung for one more episode as a sort of epilogue.
    Edited on 07/27/2008 6:32pm
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    crazyteen000

    [23]Jul 27, 2008
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    I hope the movie is just as good.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [24]Jul 27, 2008
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    Although i don't think this thread was meant for reviews:

    5/10
    great animation
    awesome fight scenes
    piss poor writing

    c-l-i-c-h-e *dies in convienent plot device*

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    de_flames101

    [25]Jul 27, 2008
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    Jouai wrote:
    I honestly give it a C+ overall, because while the action scenes were phenomenal as expected/as always, the show's production team having focused so much upon that resulted in the diminished aspects of other elements to the finale. The fanatical build up to the showdown with Phoenix King Ozai turned out to be quite the letdown (for me, at least), because the entire time, during the first and second half of their battle, it turned out to be nothing more than a game of cat and mouse. He chased Aang with the heavy offense, while Aang tried desperately not to get hit. Then it was Avatar Aang chasing after him with HIS heavy offense, while OZAI tried his best not to get destroyed. I'd expected/hoped for, after three years of talk-talk-TALK about their inevitable fight, that it WOULD have been a much more satisfying, impressive one at that, versus just a brilliant light show, basically. And I didn't like the way Ozai's tyrannical credibility was instantly severed the moment Aang stripped him of his Bending abilities. Said move was impressive, of course, but again, after years of making Ozai come off as and actually was this horrid, unstoppable/unfeeling force, in SECONDS he was turned into a laughing stock and pathetic, drooling little invalid. Disappointing. Then there was Azula. HER battle with both Zuko and Katara was truly one of, if not the best one shown throughout the entire finale. THEIRS was a true battle, with her giving and deflecting attacks without end and vice versa, and neither side (save Katara, I suppose) backing down and running away in the way Aang had for Ozai and Ozai for Aang later on. It was steady, consistent, realistic, and certainly helped the overall series live up to its good name and reputation for fantastic fight scenes (especially once Katara finally defeated her, which I was glad that she had been the one to do it instead of Zuko. To ME, it didn't really matter if Zuko did defeat Azula, because he already won the battle long before that day, regardless). But I'm disappointed that I didn't get to see her within the aftermath of it all. I got to see Ozai; why not her? Where is she now? At the Boiling Rock, or in some other cell housed within the palace grounds like her father? It would have been great (again, for me, at least) to have seen her chained up or in some similar fashion, avidly insane now and completely disheveled in appearance, signifying the fall of another great power. Iroh I was happy to see return, as expected, but was disappointed in his performance, as well. The last time we saw him was on the day of the eclipse. And according to the guard Zuko confronted when he went to break him out, Iroh had done so for himself with frightening power not parallel to anything else that guard had ever seen before. So I was expecting him to unleash said power during his second siege of Ba Sing Se on behalf of the Earth Kingdom and former king (and especially with the added boost of the comet? Forget it). But the only thing he did was tap into its power for a moment and begin the attacks, and then burned the Fire Nation flag. I understand, from his perspective, I suppose, his desire not to enact any more violence. But again, with the great build up and focus upon his absence all this time, and then the dramatic escape he'd pulled off (and getting buff to do it), his return, in THAT regard, at least, was pretty deflated. As for the now official canon pairings, I don't really care for either way. Only thing I will comment upon is that, while it was already known that Zuko cared for Mai and obviously vice versa, their reunion was a bit out of place and artificial in terms of emotion. That is, on the side of ZUKO, who, after having leaving her during the eclipse and again while escaping the Boiling Rock, never once mentioned her. I'm sure he thought of her, but being as I am not a mind reader, I'd never been none the wiser over the matter. It was just as though he'd stopped caring for her altogether, or, at the very least, as a lover. Yet as soon as everything was finished and only tying up loose ends remained in the last few minutes of the finale, he was suddenly just as affectionate and overcome by emotion to have her back, as though he'd always been talking about her/missing her in every episode since their separation. I'm not saying I expected/wanted him to gush or bemoan over her in every episode up until the finale, but he DID continue to lament over his betrayal with his uncle in almost every episode since joining the Gaang. So, it was just a bit disconcerting, the way that had played out. Finally, it was quite difficult to understand the lion-turtle (an idea that has been done to death, IMO, the aspect or idea of a giant, island-like turtle; however, then again, what idea hasn't been?), and his blurb about, BASICALLY, as what it all had come down to, being able to take away the Bending from someone. That act, itself, definitely took away the whole flavor and admiration I had for Aang and his constant struggle to persevere. NOW, whenever bothered by a difficult decision, all he has to do is take away a would-be foe's Bending and that'll be that. It was sort of, as it felt to me, an easy cop-out for the writers as a way to readily explain and solve Aang's problem and conflict with having to kill Ozai, but not wishing to. For what? JUST so he wouldn't have to compromise his beliefs, teachings, and soul/inner karma? But as Zuko would say, that's just life. he was/is the Avatar. Taking on the impossible and making difficult, gut-wrenching decisions comes with the territory. Avatar Yang Chen seemed to understand that, and every Avatar before him who had come to visit him and give consultation. It just really seemed like the writers/creators were just protecting Aang from being plagued any further from any more guilt or what have you, and that was another disappointment for me to have seen. Anyhow. Again, overall, I would and do give the finale a C+, for the reasons I'd stated. Nonetheless, I am glad to have watched it and that it is all over.

    100% Agreed. How bout the fact that there was another deus ex machina besides the Lion Turtle... the rock that miraculously makes Aang go Avatar State! What happened to letting go of Katara or whatever?

    However, we gotta realize that the creators created this finale for viewers 7-13 years in age. I'm sure it was a pretty good ending for the youngsters. BUT, for the people who look deeper, this finale was epic, but not the best way to finish such an amazing show.

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    zacko95

    [26]Jul 28, 2008
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    The reason why all of you say it isn't furfilling is because your disapointed its over.

    To make a TRULY furfilling finale of avatar, SO MUCH MORE had to have been done. I think that this finale is the best they could have done. Its a show on nick, its limited, and the entire EPIC series had lead up to this episode. So even if was 99% as good as you thought it would be, you would be disapointed.

    Anyway i thought it was great. MAYBE could have been a little better, but i blame nick and there limitation of writing

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    vampys_girl

    [27]Jul 28, 2008
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    Token_BlackGuy wrote:
    Pretty disappointed with the overall final episodes. Sure, we were going to wonder what happened to some characters, but why go the extra mile to have Zuko ask about his mother and still not get an answer for us. Azula and her final staying place?

    I almost feel like ending the series after crossroads of destiny, while having us always wonder what might have been, would actually have been as good as the actual ending.

    Too much was left unanswered, and while I know not everything would be answered, as there are always questions with any show. it seems like the powers that be seemed to linger along the whole third season and try to put alot into a few episodes. Too many filler episodes this season. To be honest, I felt Ember Island Players was more of a filler than anything. How could you have such a meaningless episode right before the final?

    Oh well. I enjoy Avatar, as do my kids, but I feel like the ending was a disappointment. I'd think you can almost compare it to the way Inuyasha ended.
    I agree, specially with the Zuko asking about his mom. Why do that? The story is not going to be continued so why leave that question to us... To torture us fans...
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    Ramrom

    [28]Jul 28, 2008
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    no... I thought the ending was awesome. Couldn't have imagined it better myself.
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    crazyteen000

    [29]Jul 28, 2008
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    vampys_girl wrote:
    Token_BlackGuy wrote:
    Pretty disappointed with the overall final episodes. Sure, we were going to wonder what happened to some characters, but why go the extra mile to have Zuko ask about his mother and still not get an answer for us. Azula and her final staying place?

    I almost feel like ending the series after crossroads of destiny, while having us always wonder what might have been, would actually have been as good as the actual ending.

    Too much was left unanswered, and while I know not everything would be answered, as there are always questions with any show. it seems like the powers that be seemed to linger along the whole third season and try to put alot into a few episodes. Too many filler episodes this season. To be honest, I felt Ember Island Players was more of a filler than anything. How could you have such a meaningless episode right before the final?

    Oh well. I enjoy Avatar, as do my kids, but I feel like the ending was a disappointment. I'd think you can almost compare it to the way Inuyasha ended.
    I agree, specially with the Zuko asking about his mom. Why do that? The story is not going to be continued so why leave that question to us... To torture us fans...
    If it plan out gives you an answer then you detach yourself because you know everything and there is no need to have interest. Its that simple.
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    kelalala_121

    [30]Jul 28, 2008
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    vampys_girl wrote:
    Token_BlackGuy wrote:
    Pretty disappointed with the overall final episodes. Sure, we were going to wonder what happened to some characters, but why go the extra mile to have Zuko ask about his mother and still not get an answer for us. Azula and her final staying place?

    I almost feel like ending the series after crossroads of destiny, while having us always wonder what might have been, would actually have been as good as the actual ending.

    Too much was left unanswered, and while I know not everything would be answered, as there are always questions with any show. it seems like the powers that be seemed to linger along the whole third season and try to put alot into a few episodes. Too many filler episodes this season. To be honest, I felt Ember Island Players was more of a filler than anything. How could you have such a meaningless episode right before the final?

    Oh well. I enjoy Avatar, as do my kids, but I feel like the ending was a disappointment. I'd think you can almost compare it to the way Inuyasha ended.
    I agree, specially with the Zuko asking about his mom. Why do that? The story is not going to be continued so why leave that question to us... To torture us fans...

    Yeah, I agree. Oh well, my imagination tells me she ran off with the milkman.

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    crazyteen000

    [31]Jul 29, 2008
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    kelalala_121 wrote:

    vampys_girl wrote:
    Token_BlackGuy wrote:
    Pretty disappointed with the overall final episodes. Sure, we were going to wonder what happened to some characters, but why go the extra mile to have Zuko ask about his mother and still not get an answer for us. Azula and her final staying place?

    I almost feel like ending the series after crossroads of destiny, while having us always wonder what might have been, would actually have been as good as the actual ending.

    Too much was left unanswered, and while I know not everything would be answered, as there are always questions with any show. it seems like the powers that be seemed to linger along the whole third season and try to put alot into a few episodes. Too many filler episodes this season. To be honest, I felt Ember Island Players was more of a filler than anything. How could you have such a meaningless episode right before the final?

    Oh well. I enjoy Avatar, as do my kids, but I feel like the ending was a disappointment. I'd think you can almost compare it to the way Inuyasha ended.
    I agree, specially with the Zuko asking about his mom. Why do that? The story is not going to be continued so why leave that question to us... To torture us fans...

    Yeah, I agree. Oh well, my imagination tells me she ran off with the milkman.

    lol
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    youtube_tv

    [32]Jul 29, 2008
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    i give it an A+ overall, everything was perfect with the plot and how they would bring stuff back from the past about what happened. i wouldn't change anything
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    isabelwhatx

    [33]Jul 29, 2008
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    crazyteen000 wrote:
    I liked it but it was rushed and I thought there were holes in the storyline.

    Like what? Other than the Ursa thing everything was pretty much fulfilled.
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