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    Inu_Rose

    [1]Nov 29, 2006
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    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.
    Edited on 11/29/2006 4:34pm
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    adidaZuko

    [2]Nov 29, 2006
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    OMG, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. Unfortunately cartoon clicheness will probably put the four nations together, and in all fairness that would be interesting but way too predictable. Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind would be very moving, plus I already think that Sokka will join the Water Tribe men (he's old enough now), and Toph will probably go home because Aang has mastered Earthbending (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever) and the??Guru said that Aang would have to learn to let go, and??without Katara there would be no??Kataang vs. Zutara going on with the gang so the??shippers wouldn't completely kill each other. It seems??very likely, and I'd love to see it??happen,??but I'm still expecting??Zuko to join the whole gang and for the creators to??make it cliched and everything (mostly??because I don't want to raise my hopes just to have them torn down. Low expectations are the key to happiness.)??I absoluetly love your theroy, though.
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    Inu_Rose

    [3]Nov 29, 2006
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    adidaZuko wrote:
    OMG, I was actually thinking the exact same thing. Unfortunately cartoon clicheness will probably put the four nations together, and in all fairness that would be interesting but way too predictable. Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind would be very moving, plus I already think that Sokka will join the Water Tribe men (he's old enough now), and Toph will probably go home because Aang has mastered Earthbending (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever) and the Guru said that Aang would have to learn to let go, and without Katara there would be no Kataang vs. Zutara going on with the gang so the shippers wouldn't completely kill each other. It seems very likely, and I'd love to see it happen, but I'm still expecting Zuko to join the whole gang and for the creators to make it cliched and everything (mostly because I don't want to raise my hopes just to have them torn down. Low expectations are the key to happiness.) I absoluetly love your theroy, though.


    Thanks! I personally wouldn't mind if all of them got together. I especially don't want Toph to go home, back to where she isn't understood. But I don't want all of them to just join up right away either. Sorry, I know everyone hates them, but I just LOVE cliffhangers! I want Aang to tell Katara that he has to go into the Fire Nation alone, he flies off on Appa as everyone is staring after him. :dramatic music playing: Then just before the end of the episode he's camping somewhere and Zuko comes out "You're heading to (insert Fire Nation Capitol here), right? Maybe I can help." THE END! XD

    My god... there would be such a rampage on Nick studios...

    (p.s. When everyone was complaining about how Pirates of the Carribian 2 ended... I was giggling with joy.)
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    ardron

    [4]Nov 29, 2006
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    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.

    That all well and good except for one thing., why not have a main character die? It would deepen the plot and motivate the characters. Also it would really set Avatar apart from the rest of the cartoon world. Not that I hate any characters.

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    Inu_Rose

    [5]Nov 29, 2006
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    ardron wrote:

    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.

    That all well and good except for one thing., why not have a main character die? It would deepen the plot and motivate the characters. Also it would really set Avatar apart from the rest of the cartoon world. Not that I hate any characters.


    GAH! That would be too sad for me! I could maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe deal with Suki dying. But Toph or Sokka or Katara? I would probably have a seizure. (Aang certainly can't die, as least until the end of the show. But even then I hope he doesn't.)

    My personal feelings aside... yeah, it would be a really good plot device to move the story along and give it another level of depth. A character death would really make it a personal battle for Aang.
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    piranhapete

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    adidaZuko wrote:
    (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever)


    It took Katara THREE weeks to learn the waterbending she did.

    Just because they don't show training, which would be boring, do not believe that Aang doesn't train hard. And don't forget that even a master must practice every day, therefore "master" is a fairly variable term. This was said by the kung-fu consultant. Who says Katara mastered waterbending, anyway?
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    ardron

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    piranhapete wrote:
    adidaZuko wrote:
    (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever)
    It took Katara THREE weeks to learn the waterbending she did. Just because they don't show training, which would be boring, do not believe that Aang doesn't train hard. And don't forget that even a master must practice every day, therefore "master" is a fairly variable term. This was said by the kung-fu consultant. Who says Katara mastered waterbending, anyway?

    Master Pokku said that the waterbending scrolls that he gave Aang was no substitute for a real master, then he looked at Katara.

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    sifuIroh

    [8]Nov 29, 2006
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    ardron wrote:

    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.

    That all well and good except for one thing., why not have a main character die? It would deepen the plot and motivate the characters. Also it would really set Avatar apart from the rest of the cartoon world. Not that I hate any characters.

    yes and we can wish them back with the dragon balls. ha ha

    no I agree

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    adidaZuko

    [9]Nov 29, 2006
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    piranhapete wrote:
    adidaZuko wrote:
    (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever)
    It took Katara THREE weeks to learn the waterbending she did.

    Oh well, that changes everything. To be honest I absolutely hate her, she's just "the Mary Sue that wasn't" (tenth time I've used that today, I just like the phrase). She did master it too fast, but then so did Aang, the thing is, it's all fictional. I really don't care.

    Just because they don't show training, which would be boring, do not believe that Aang doesn't train hard. And don't forget that even a master must practice every day, therefore "master" is a fairly variable term. This was said by the kung-fu consultant. Who says Katara mastered waterbending, anyway?

    Technically, Pakku, but then that might have been because she was more advanced than Aang, and, come on, her bending has gotten a little ridiculous from the meeger (sp?) little waves she could create to this ridiculously huge octopus thing she's going to use??in the season finale. Nobody gets that??good that fast, it's unrealistic. And it coulnd't have possibly been three weeks because Zuko's cuts hadn't faded, they were still there on his face.

    But please, don't turn this into a Katara themed thread I've already argued about this several times. I just don't like her as a character. Don't ask why and don't try to convince me otherwise, I could give you a billion different reasons to dislike her??but all that would do is waste time and space.

    Back to the topic!

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    piranhapete

    [10]Nov 29, 2006
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    adidaZuko wrote:

    piranhapete wrote:
    adidaZuko wrote:
    (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever)
    It took Katara THREE weeks to learn the waterbending she did.

    Oh well, that changes everything. To be honest I absolutely hate her, she's just "the Mary Sue that wasn't" (tenth time I've used that today, I just like the phrase). She did master it too fast, but then so did Aang, the thing is, it's all fictional. I really don't care.

    Just because they don't show training, which would be boring, do not believe that Aang doesn't train hard. And don't forget that even a master must practice every day, therefore "master" is a fairly variable term. This was said by the kung-fu consultant. Who says Katara mastered waterbending, anyway?

    Technically, Pakku, but then that might have been because she was more advanced than Aang, and, come on, her bending has gotten a little ridiculous from the meeger (sp?) little waves she could create to this ridiculously huge octopus thing she's going to use??in the season finale. Nobody gets that??good that fast, it's unrealistic. And it coulnd't have possibly been three weeks because Zuko's cuts hadn't faded, they were still there on his face.

    But please, don't turn this into a Katara themed thread I've already argued about this several times. I just don't like her as a character. Don't ask why and don't try to convince me otherwise, I could give you a billion different reasons to dislike her??but all that would do is waste time and space.

    Back to the topic!


    Sorry, but when you present opinions I reserve the right to object.

    IT WAS AT LEAST THREE WEEKS. Look at the moon when Yue kisses Sokka in 1-18. It is quarter moon. It takes three weeks for a quarter moon to reach the full moon. Get it? Great.

    And don't forget about the three weeks they spent on the boat and the two months that have passed since then. Katara is determined to be a great waterbender. If I had to guess I would estimate that she spends half of her free time training, hours a day.

    Yes, it is still a bit unrealistic, but what do you expect? She's Aang's teacher, so she has to be good.

    You can hate Katara. I don't care. I want to make it clear that it took her about three and a half months since she trained with Pakku to get where she is.
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    Inu_Rose

    [11]Nov 29, 2006
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    How did this turn into a Katara analysis? Katara issues aside, what do you think of the theory???
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    ardron

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    Inu_Rose wrote:
    How did this turn into a Katara analysis? Katara issues aside, what do you think of the theory???

    Aside from the not dying, pretty good.

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    adidaZuko

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    piranhapete wrote:
    adidaZuko wrote:

    piranhapete wrote:
    adidaZuko wrote:
    (I found it hard to believe but then again Katara mastered waterbending in, what, a week? ...whatever)
    It took Katara THREE weeks to learn the waterbending she did.

    Oh well, that changes everything. To be honest I absolutely hate her, she's just "the Mary Sue that wasn't" (tenth time I've used that today, I just like the phrase). She did master it too fast, but then so did Aang, the thing is, it's all fictional. I really don't care.

    Just because they don't show training, which would be boring, do not believe that Aang doesn't train hard. And don't forget that even a master must practice every day, therefore "master" is a fairly variable term. This was said by the kung-fu consultant. Who says Katara mastered waterbending, anyway?

    Technically, Pakku, but then that might have been because she was more advanced than Aang, and, come on, her bending has gotten a little ridiculous from the meeger (sp?) little waves she could create to this ridiculously huge octopus thing she's going to use??in the season finale. Nobody gets that??good that fast, it's unrealistic. And it coulnd't have possibly been three weeks because Zuko's cuts hadn't faded, they were still there on his face.

    But please, don't turn this into a Katara themed thread I've already argued about this several times. I just don't like her as a character. Don't ask why and don't try to convince me otherwise, I could give you a billion different reasons to dislike her??but all that would do is waste time and space.

    Back to the topic!

    Okay, first the moon thing doesn't matter because if you look at the spirit world and then at avatar Roku, Aang was going to leave the next day, that night there was a crescent moon, but then there was a full moon out. Those were mistakes, and Katara was dubbed a master before those three weeks and we don't even know if she was training, it's all up for debate, point is, it's questionable and I don't like that in a show animated or otherwise. This argument is really going no where though, it's like Katara lovers versus Katara haters (don't know if you're a Katara lover, but it's an exageration; I don't "hate" a two-dimensional character).

    Back to the topic.
    Sorry, but when you present opinions I reserve the right to object. IT WAS AT LEAST THREE WEEKS. Look at the moon when Yue kisses Sokka in 1-18. It is quarter moon. It takes three weeks for a quarter moon to reach the full moon. Get it? Great. And don't forget about the three weeks they spent on the boat and the two months that have passed since then. Katara is determined to be a great waterbender. If I had to guess I would estimate that she spends half of her free time training, hours a day. Yes, it is still a bit unrealistic, but what do you expect? She's Aang's teacher, so she has to be good. You can hate Katara. I don't care. I want to make it clear that it took her about three and a half months since she trained with Pakku to get where she is.
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    adidaZuko

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    Under "Back to the topic" in that bluish writing is what I typed if anyone cares to read it. WHY DOES IT DO THAT?! It's so annoying.
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    Tessa-san

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    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.

    Run to the hills.... run for your lives...
    Sorry, just reminded me of that song. XD
    Anyhow, on your theory...
    I like the idea, but I doubt it will happen. Aang just learned that he needs his friends and shouldn't give them up. But who knows? It could happen.
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    gunswordfist

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    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Okay, consider this. Assuming Aang really does have to give up Katara, wouldn't he decide it was safer to leave his friends behind when he travels into the heart of the Fire Nation? He tired to do the same thing once before in Winter Solstice so it would make sense. Also it seems like Zuko is going to end up helping the Avatar, and I can see him offering to serve as Aang's guide through the fire nation once he's come to terms with himself. So it would just be Aang and Zuko going off to be heroic, leaving every one else in safety. End of Season 2.

    Of course, I don't think the rest of the gaang would put up with that for long. So they would track them through the Fire Nation. (Maybe along with Iroh as well?) Then a few episodes into season 3 something perilous happens and the two groups come together again.

    What do you think? I think Zuko and Aang both leaving their loved ones behind to persue their destinies would make for a very moving finale.
    As much as I hate to see these two groups join up (only because Iroh and Zuko being against the Aang gang makes the show and their characters so interesting) I believe that what you said will come true. You got yourself a theory that sounds very possible.
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