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Ok, total weird right there. |
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P.S. Zukaang. It's the future. |
So I was catching up on what people were thinking the whole idea of Koh returning to steal Toph's face is excellent. It would explain his breif appearance that I heard about. Its interesting though if it were Toph over the other gaang members because I would assume the rest of the gaang would seem to show more emotion since the can actually see his appearance. So Zuko blocking Aang's water chakura. So if this is a premonition which is a very good chance, All the analysis of Zuko and Water Chakura have been pointing to the idea that... Zuko will sacrifice himself.
This idea of Zuko sacraficing himself seems like something Bryke would do with the character. They always explain how the love developing his character and that hes their favorite character. So how more fitting for your favorite character at the end of the series to switch from pure evil to sacrificing himself for the greater good. Also this is where Firelord Iroh may come on... I know nothing points to Firelord Iroh _yet_
| avatargold wrote: |
So I was catching up on what people were thinking the whole idea of Koh returning to steal Toph's face is excellent. It would explain his breif appearance that I heard about. Its interesting though if it were Toph over the other gaang members because I would assume the rest of the gaang would seem to show more emotion since the can actually see his appearance. So Zuko blocking Aang's water chakura. So if this is a premonition which is a very good chance, All the analysis of Zuko and Water Chakura have been pointing to the idea that... Zuko will sacrifice himself. This idea of Zuko sacraficing himself seems like something Bryke would do with the character. They always explain how the love developing his character and that hes their favorite character. So how more fitting for your favorite character at the end of the series to switch from pure evil to sacrificing himself for the greater good. Also this is where Firelord Iroh may come on... I know nothing points to Firelord Iroh _yet_
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| avatargold wrote: |
So I was catching up on what people were thinking the whole idea of Koh returning to steal Toph's face is excellent. It would explain his breif appearance that I heard about. Its interesting though if it were Toph over the other gaang members because I would assume the rest of the gaang would seem to show more emotion since the can actually see his appearance. So Zuko blocking Aang's water chakura. So if this is a premonition which is a very good chance, All the analysis of Zuko and Water Chakura have been pointing to the idea that... Zuko will sacrifice himself. This idea of Zuko sacraficing himself seems like something Bryke would do with the character. They always explain how the love developing his character and that hes their favorite character. So how more fitting for your favorite character at the end of the series to switch from pure evil to sacrificing himself for the greater good. Also this is where Firelord Iroh may come on... I know nothing points to Firelord Iroh _yet_
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| what!!, the whole part of iroh teaching zuko everything is so zuko can be firelord, just like when iroh said he was like a son to me, as in the true prince. and i could see iroh dieing not zuko. and i didnt know koh could come back from the spirit world, is that possilbe if it is then y doesnt roku come back and defeat the firelord, duhhh????? |
Yeah I was just speculating about Firelord Iroh. Everything just seems in Aang's premonition that Zuko will have to sacrifice himself to save Aang. Aang feeling guilty about his sacrifice blocking his water chakura. As you said Zuko is like a son to Iroh, so him losing another "son" could be considered Iroh's karma for not stopping or the war. I know a bit harsh, but it makes for emotional ending. I was thinking that Iroh may become Rirelord because he was not in final trailer meaning showing him as firelord would be to spoilerish. Its just the way thought of Aang's dream and Iroh's absent in the trailer.
As for Roku coming back it could be completely possible, but it could be just as simple Roku doesn't know how, or there can only be one Avatar spirit present at a time, since it hasn't been revealed. But Its safe to assume Roku coming back would be to anticlimactic so really thats why it won't happen. Main character Aang preparing to win a war for the _entire series_ just for a lesser character to take over.
I do not think Toph will die, and she will only be incapacitated. Here is my reasoning:
1) We are introduced to Toph in "The Blind Bandit". She is a rich girl who is a very gifted earthbender but sheltered by her parents. She disobeys her parents so she can teach Aang Earthbending. She later teaches Aang in "Bitter Work".
2) At the end of season 2 she gets a note from her mother and is excited to go see her mom. Toph's knows that her parents are angry at her but she still wants to see her mother. Her reaction suggests that she is still interested in patching things up with her parents. Of course it turns out to be a trap.
3) In season 3 there was one episode that revolved around her. Katara accuses her of having bad behavior because of her backround with her parents. Toph later admits that she misses her parents and has Katara help her write a letter to her parents delivered via hawky.
Conclusion: When all major points in Toph's plot are examined they usually revolve around her personality, teaching Aang, or her relationship with her parents with the latter being the part of the plot that reoccurs the most. The only ways to resolve Toph's plot are for her to fix things up with her parents and go home or for things to stay like they are and wander like she has been doing. Having her die would do absolutely nothing for her plot-line. Since Toph has shown a continued interest in patching things up with her parents it should be assumed her destiny is to return home to her parents. While she is an interesing character she is relatively unimportant to the overall storyline other than teaching Aang earthbending unless you truly believe that she has a deep connection to Aang.
| avatargold wrote: |
| So I was catching up on what people were thinking the whole idea of Koh returning to steal Toph's face is excellent. It would explain his breif appearance that I heard about. Its interesting though if it were Toph over the other gaang members because I would assume the rest of the gaang would seem to show more emotion since the can actually see his appearance. So Zuko blocking Aang's water chakura. So if this is a premonition which is a very good chance, All the analysis of Zuko and Water Chakura have been pointing to the idea that... Zuko will sacrifice himself. This idea of Zuko sacraficing himself seems like something Bryke would do with the character. They always explain how the love developing his character and that hes their favorite character. So how more fitting for your favorite character at the end of the series to switch from pure evil to sacrificing himself for the greater good. Also this is where Firelord Iroh may come on... I know nothing points to Firelord Iroh _yet_
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| xXKarisuXx wrote: |
| Actually, Zuko would be the most probable death. He's a tragic character. Tragic characters die. I could draw lovely parallels between Zuko and Snape from HPot. In fact, I will. Snape | | Zuko ^^ haha, joke. But in all seriousness, I could see Zuko dying, but does the premonition support that theory? Zuko appears in his old FN garb and haircut, and he seems to be preventing Aang from accomplishing a goal. |
That dream reminded me of that tape in "The Ring". Especially during the scene with Aang sitting on a field (which afterwards becomes all red from the comet crashing onto the ground). I expected Aang to jump off the little hill, with his arms spread
But anyhow. I don't think (or don't want to think) they'll kill off Zuko. Someone has to inherit the throne, you see. And if it were Iroh to become king, he still has no heirs! I'd rather go with the interpretation that Zuko will have to chose between saving his uncle and Aang - and finally choses Aang. Him protecting the avatar seems very likely cause in the dream he's between Aang and the comet - like a protector or something.
I'm reading too much into it, aren't I?
| CynicalTH wrote: |
| That dream reminded me of that tape in "The Ring". Especially during the scene with Aang sitting on a field (which afterwards becomes all red from the comet crashing onto the ground). I expected Aang to jump off the little hill, with his arms spread But anyhow. I don't think (or don't want to think) they'll kill off Zuko. Someone has to inherit the throne, you see. And if it were Iroh to become king, he still has no heirs! I'd rather go with the interpretation that Zuko will have to chose between saving his uncle and Aang - and finally choses Aang. Him protecting the avatar seems very likely cause in the dream he's between Aang and the comet - like a protector or something. I'm reading too much into it, aren't I? |
Can you ever really read too much into Avatar? It just has so much depth. Anyway, after this, how can we even be sure there will be a Firelord. I mean, there's no more Earth King and there never was a ruler of the Air Nomads. What if the position of Firelord no longer existed after the war, because of fears that the same thing would happen?
| Absarroth wrote: | ||
Can you ever really read too much into Avatar? It just has so much depth. Anyway, after this, how can we even be sure there will be a Firelord. I mean, there's no more Earth King and there never was a ruler of the Air Nomads. What if the position of Firelord no longer existed after the war, because of fears that the same thing would happen? |
Bumi is also a king, The earth kingdom is the most divided of them all, we don't know exactly what land was controlled by bumi and which land was controlled by the earth king, maybe they had more kings dividing up the land...
Yes the water tribe is also split up, but that's more because of the distance between the two, maybe/probably they had better relations with each other before the war.
| AvatarSensation wrote: |
Must I post this again? |
