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Aang's Next Step

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    Eman5805

    [1]Dec 2, 2006
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    Aang just got the Avatar State, then he got blasted with lightning came back from death,or atleast the brink of death. But, now Aang has to take the next step in his Avatardom(not a word but I don't care) which isn't just Firebending. Aang is just too soft. He got knocked around far too much in that battle to say he's the most powerful bender in the world. I hope the Firebender that teaches Aang addresses this issue. Aang wouldn't have surived without Katara being there and I'm almost certain Aang will have to do the bulk of the final showdown with the Fire Nation on his lonesome. He has to adapt that Anti-Airbender killer instinct. Azula didn't hesiate in dealing that fatal blow, hopefully this'll advance Aang's battling mindset. I know he's 12 but damnit he's gotta step his game up. And fighting like a Firebender will be just the remedy.

    What does everyone else think? Can Aang do it the way he is or does this youngin' need to man up and get more Firebender-like to beat Firebenders.

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    Inu_Rose

    [2]Dec 2, 2006
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    Eman5805 wrote:

    Aang just got the Avatar State, then he got blasted with lightning came back from death,or atleast the brink of death. But, now Aang has to take the next step in his Avatardom(not a word but I don't care) which isn't just Firebending. Aang is just too soft. He got knocked around far too much in that battle to say he's the most powerful bender in the world. I hope the Firebender that teaches Aang addresses this issue. Aang wouldn't have surived without Katara being there and I'm almost certain Aang will have to do the bulk of the final showdown with the Fire Nation on his lonesome. He has to adapt that Anti-Airbender killer instinct. Azula didn't hesiate in dealing that fatal blow, hopefully this'll advance Aang's battling mindset. I know he's 12 but damnit he's gotta step his game up. And fighting like a Firebender will be just the remedy.

    What does everyone else think? Can Aang do it the way he is or does this youngin' need to man up and get more Firebender-like to beat Firebenders.



    I don't think he'll necessarily need to become a hardened warrior. Being the Avatar is about keeping peace and balance in the world, not just beating the crap out of the Fire Lord. I believe Aang will become powerful, but he will find a way to fight without giving up his good nature. If he just fights on killer instinct then he's no better than Azula. Aang placing his feelings first will pay off in the end.
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    kataang4eva081

    [3]Dec 2, 2006
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    Inu_Rose wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:

    Aang just got the Avatar State, then he got blasted with lightning came back from death,or atleast the brink of death. But, now Aang has to take the next step in his Avatardom(not a word but I don't care) which isn't just Firebending. Aang is just too soft. He got knocked around far too much in that battle to say he's the most powerful bender in the world. I hope the Firebender that teaches Aang addresses this issue. Aang wouldn't have surived without Katara being there and I'm almost certain Aang will have to do the bulk of the final showdown with the Fire Nation on his lonesome. He has to adapt that Anti-Airbender killer instinct. Azula didn't hesiate in dealing that fatal blow, hopefully this'll advance Aang's battling mindset. I know he's 12 but damnit he's gotta step his game up. And fighting like a Firebender will be just the remedy.

    What does everyone else think? Can Aang do it the way he is or does this youngin' need to man up and get more Firebender-like to beat Firebenders.



    I don't think he'll necessarily need to become a hardened warrior. Being the Avatar is about keeping peace and balance in the world, not just beating the crap out of the Fire Lord. I believe Aang will become powerful, but he will find a way to fight without giving up his good nature. If he just fights on killer instinct then he's no better than Azula. Aang placing his feelings first will pay off in the end.

    Yes, go Aang for placing his feelings first! I think its sweet.??It will pay off in the end, his way of fighting is differnet, maybe to different for his opponets to comprehend and figure out and how to kill him, wait scratch that, Azula kind of did kill him, I dunno, but go Aang for loving Katara!

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    PrimoNation

    [4]Dec 2, 2006
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    Both me & hubby have noticed, time & time again, Aang does not show offensive moves, which is why I truly believe he has been beaten by Azula everytime he has fought her.

    Think about it, she had him by the collar out cold in The Drill, it was her own demise of seeking glory before the final blow that stopped something that should have been.?? She also had him trapped in The Chase.?? If it hadn't been for Katara showing up and freeing him from the beams across his body in the beat up building, who knows.?? oops... edit... I forgot, Bumi was the one who took Azula out in Return to Omashu, another example.

    Airbenders are naturally peaceful (i.e. Monks and nomads).?? Aang needs to utilize more offensive moves in his fighting if he is to conquer the powers of the fire nation.?? Note Katara was VERY offensive with Azula and basically had her outpowered.?? If it hadn't been for Zuko breaking her grip on Azula, Katara was about to take her down.?? Yet Aang was fighting Zuko and instead of using his earthbending to trip his stance to weaken his firepower (or even when he charged Azula he could have done this)... instead he takes defensive moves and incorporates them into his attacks.??

    I think that is why Jeong Jeong said Aang was not ready to learn firebending.?? He must truly grasp the power of the attack power of earthbending (like Toph does) and then he will be able to move up to the more aggressive figthing of firebending.

    Edited on 12/02/2006 8:32pm
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    ardron

    [5]Dec 2, 2006
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    PrimoNation wrote:

    Both me & hubby have noticed, time & time again, Aang does not show offensive moves, which is why I truly believe he has been beaten by Azula everytime he has fought her.

    Think about it, she had him by the collar out cold in The Drill, it was her own demise of seeking glory before the final blow that stopped something that should have been.?? She also had him trapped in The Chase.?? If it hadn't been for Katara showing up and freeing him from the beams across his body in the beat up building, who knows.?? oops... edit... I forgot, Bumi was the one who took Azula out in Return to Omashu, another example.

    Airbenders are naturally peaceful (i.e. Monks and nomads).?? Aang needs to utilize more offensive moves in his fighting if he is to conquer the powers of the fire nation.?? Note Katara was VERY offensive with Azula and basically had her outpowered.?? If it hadn't been for Zuko breaking her grip on Azula, Katara was about to take her down.?? Yet Aang was fighting Zuko and instead of using his earthbending to trip his stance to weaken his firepower (or even when he charged Azula he could have done this)... instead he takes defensive moves and incorporates them into his attacks.??

    I think that is why Jeong Jeong said Aang was not ready to learn firebending.?? He must truly grasp the power of the attack power of earthbending (like Toph does) and then he will be able to move up to the more aggressive figthing of firebending.

    *Agrees*

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    Sappyswami

    [6]Dec 2, 2006
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    He doesn't need killer instinct, in fact that is the weakness of the Firebenders, they are are fueled by emotion, and therefor less adaptable. But balancing more aggressive moves does seem right, but he can't favor them, it would be the same problem. He needs to find the balance between the two.
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    MCMLXVI

    [7]Dec 3, 2006
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    My speculation:

    Aang's progress to date:
    ???air: collect and distribute (Gyatso et al)
    ???water: pull and push (Katara et al)
    ???earth: bind and break (Toph)

    Aang's current step:
    ???energy: yin and yang (Patik)

    Aang's next step:
    ???fire: contain and ignite

    Bumi said earthbending was about listening and waiting for the time to strike. To prepare for firebending, Aang probably needs to learn how to seek an opening in an effort to reduce the time he needs to wait before striking.

    Edited on 12/03/2006 5:39am
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    sapphyraine

    [8]Dec 3, 2006
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    PrimoNation wrote:

    Both me & hubby have noticed, time & time again, Aang does not show offensive moves, which is why I truly believe he has been beaten by Azula everytime he has fought her.

    Think about it, she had him by the collar out cold in The Drill, it was her own demise of seeking glory before the final blow that stopped something that should have been.?? She also had him trapped in The Chase.?? If it hadn't been for Katara showing up and freeing him from the beams across his body in the beat up building, who knows.?? oops... edit... I forgot, Bumi was the one who took Azula out in Return to Omashu, another example.

    Airbenders are naturally peaceful (i.e. Monks and nomads).?? Aang needs to utilize more offensive moves in his fighting if he is to conquer the powers of the fire nation.?? Note Katara was VERY offensive with Azula and basically had her outpowered.?? If it hadn't been for Zuko breaking her grip on Azula, Katara was about to take her down.?? Yet Aang was fighting Zuko and instead of using his earthbending to trip his stance to weaken his firepower (or even when he charged Azula he could have done this)... instead he takes defensive moves and incorporates them into his attacks.??

    I think that is why Jeong Jeong said Aang was not ready to learn firebending.?? He must truly grasp the power of the attack power of earthbending (like Toph does) and then he will be able to move up to the more aggressive figthing of firebending.



    I agree completely. Aang does not particularily strike me as a very offensive fighter naturally since Air Nomads, being raised by monks, would probably not just go and attack somebody or one of the four nations. However, he needs to learn to become more offensive so he can take out Azula. I'm sick of watching the two fight and the outcome always is that she kicks him in the rear. I feel bad for him but maybe learning firebending will make him more offensive.

    Katara has always been one heck of a fighter and will continue to be so especially since she mastered water bending at the end of the first season. She has a the strong spirit of a warrior but balances it out with her maternal nature that holds the group together at the darkest times. Katara is a very strong character and has always been one of my favorites.

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    KingAtticus

    [9]Dec 3, 2006
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    MCMLXVI wrote:
    My speculation:

    Aang's progress to date:
    ???air: collect and distribute (Gyatso et al)
    ???water: pull and push (Katara et al)
    ???earth: bind and break (Toph)

    Aang's current step:
    ???energy: yin and yang (Patik)

    Aang's next step:
    ???fire: contain and ignite

    Bumi said earthbending was about listening and waiting for the time to strike. To prepare for firebending, Aang probably needs to learn how to seek an opening in an effort to reduce the time he needs to wait before striking.



    I see... very interseting idea you have here.

    And it makes sense too!
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    Eman5805

    [10]Dec 3, 2006
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    And when I say killer instinct...It isn't completely about just going into a rage and killing all around. It's also about strategy and the willing ability?? to deliever lethal force. To beat a lethal opponent you'll have to understand how a lethal opponent fights so you can either be lethal as well, or strategize against them so that they beat themselves.
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    MCMLXVI

    [11]Dec 9, 2006
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    MCMLXVI wrote:
    My speculation:

    Aang's progress to date:
    ???air: collect and distribute (Gyatso et al)
    ???water: pull and push (Katara et al)
    ???earth: bind and break (Toph)

    Aang's current step:
    ???energy: yin and yang (Patik)

    Aang's next step:
    ???fire: contain and ignite

    Bumi said earthbending was about listening and waiting for the time to strike. To prepare for firebending, Aang probably needs to learn how to seek an opening in an effort to reduce the time he needs to wait before striking.
    KingAtticus wrote:
    I see... very interseting idea you have here.

    And it makes sense too!

    I believe Aang has not finished training with Guru Patik, and now he has his friends to practice with. Maybe he can even learn how to communicate better with Bosco.

    Edited on 12/09/2006 8:02am
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